Schaefer singing new tune..pointing fingers

[VoodooChild]

True but they said they wanted olympic-style drug test and thats what the USADA does who does it better??

When did they say that?? And when was that agreed upon by PAC??

[gopi11]

again i agree with what your saying,so floyd agrees to pay the 10mil because he isnt planning to come in over the limit so why dont manny just agree to the usada random testing if hes got nothing to hide?oh yea as far as the 8 ounce gloves go,i see why you question me,which is fine but floyd did ask for 10 ounce gloves and manny said no we want 8 ounce and he got his way

He didn't get his way, he just complying to NSAC rules and regulations which so happens he agrees with. I don't even know what Pac's demands are, because everything that was leaked out so far wasn't out of the norm for a welterweight bout. The $10M penalty was all Floyd's fault, he had a precedent, and did Pacman failed any of the drug tests he underwent on all of his previous fights held in Vegas for Floyd to ask this OST?

[project xxx1]

read it again, i said record, he has a record of reneging, not records. even if he is allowed to come in up to 147 he still reneged the 144 catch weight thats why the penalty.

ok mate,he is guilty and thats why he will make sure that he dont come in over the limit this time,but thats not why the fight has been called off,manny still wont agree to a random usada test and thats the main issue we have

[American Dream]

They submit to blood twice for every fight anyways. The USADA was affiliations with GBP and the NSAC does not. The NSAC always does the testing in boxing fights, GBP wanted the USADA to do the testing for this one for some reason though- announced this week

The USADA is not affiliated with GBP..thats something Arum made up as one of his many "opinions" as to why they wont do the olympic style testing..
the USADA is a government ran company created in 2000..that randomly test olympians..that is why GBP/MP suggested USADA (olympic style testing)..but before that, the camps almost agreed on Sen.John McCain to mediate the random testing..but Pac's camp still refused..

[VoodooChild]

ok mate,he is guilty and thats why he will make sure that he dont come in over the limit this time,but thats not why the fight has been called off,manny still wont agree to a random usada test and thats the main issue we have

You have not stated why the USDA is necessary when the fight is under the NSAC's jurisdiction.

[project xxx1]

He didn't get his way, he just complying to NSAC rules and regulations which so happens he agrees with. I don't even know what Pac's demands are, because everything that was leaked out so far wasn't out of the norm for a welterweight bout. The $10M penalty was all Floyd's fault, he had a precedent, and did Pacman failed any of the drug tests he underwent on all of his previous fights held in Vegas for Floyd to ask this OST?

thats fair enough but again we are going to go around in circles,i like both guys and respect both fighters,dont like mayweather camp and they talk alot of rubbish but at the same time i dont like arum who is scum and roach who is a great trainer but talks too much ****,so it comes down to this manny take the the damm usada random test and lets get the fight back on

[project xxx1]

You have not stated why the USDA is necessary when the fight is under the NSAC's jurisdiction.

because thats what was in the contract

[VoodooChild]

because thats what was in the contract

What contract?? Nothing was signed, and why did Mayweather ask for this stipulation?

[Boss Don]

When did they say that?? And when was that agreed upon by PAC??

you don't remember when Roach said this

FH: What are your thoughts on the random Olympic-style drug-testing proposed by the Floyd Mayweather camp for both Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao prior to the fight?

Roach: I have no problem with that whatsoever. Whatever kind of testing they want is no problem. I have trouble giving Manny Pacquiao vitamins. He won't take any protein drinks. No problem at all.

http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/17/freddie-roach-on-the-mayweathers-olympic-style-drug-testing/

but now the testing is a problem why???

[gopi11]

because thats what was in the contract

There was no signed contract yet as far as I know, they just agreed on principle that the fight will be on March 13. The 8 oz gloves, the drug test and a 147 fight was talked about later when Arum came back from PI...