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  • ShoguNinja
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    "Burden of Proof... Morons!"

    Drug-testing aside... Show proof first that Pac is taking "steroids/hgh" to increase his performance. And also, show proof too that Gayweather jr. is not taking "steroids/hgh" to improve his own performance?! You got to present your case "logically" for or againts for both sides. Fire away!!!
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    #2
    It's easy to accuse right... But it's hard to prove?!

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    • MindBat
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      #3
      Accusing anyone of using drugs without proof or evidence is foolish.

      The ONLY way is via random testing. Nobody accuses every pro boxer of being on any drugs BUT they are ALL given the benefit of doubt and must submit to drug testing to prove their innocence until proven guilty. This goes for every pro athlete.

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      • VoodooChild
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        #4
        Originally posted by ShoguNinja
        Drug-testing aside... Show proof first that Pac is taking "steroids/hgh" to increase his performance. And also, show proof too that Gayweather jr. is not taking "steroids/hgh" to improve his own performance?! You got to present your case "logically" for or againts for both sides. Fire away!!!
        I've seen a few arguments that have been demolished long ago

        1)How can he move up 4 weight divisions and gain that much weight so quickly

        -Well he's gained around 5 pounds in the past 3 1/2 years, it's not that difficult to do.

        2)He keeps getting stronger while moving up

        -David Diaz and De Lahoya both commented on how Pac didn't have that much power at all

        3)He's able to walk through punches with ease now

        -Pac at 130 was starving and dehydrating himself, now he can eat five times a day and have breakfast and lunch on the day of the weigh in. Also in his last few fights i don't recall anyone really testing him on the button.

        4)His head is so much bigger, he must be on HGH

        -HGH helps you build muscle without any strength gains, also has Pac had any head measurements done?

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        • Easy-E
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          #5
          There is no proof, which is why the more respected agency, the United States anti-doping agency, will be doing the testing and after the fight, there will be no excuses.

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          • ShoguNinja
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            #6
            Originally posted by MindBat
            Accusing anyone of using drugs without proof or evidence is foolish.

            The ONLY way is via random testing. Nobody accuses every pro boxer of being on any drugs BUT they are ALL given the benefit of doubt and must submit to drug testing to prove their innocence until proven guilty. This goes for every pro athlete.
            I agree with you in some points but to accuse a guy just to have a leverage in a contract dispute is "Insane." Further more, the only evidence being presented is based on Pac's remarkable performance as of late in which the whole boxing world highly appreciated.

            The morons logic is if Gayweather beats his opponents easy... His naturally Gifted and Very Skilled. If pac beats his opponents easy... They say that his on "Drugs." What kind of "****** logic" is that?!

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            • hypodermical
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              #7
              Originally posted by ShoguNinja
              Wow! Thats the most Idiotic Logic that i ever heard to prove once guilt or innocence. Ask every sports nutritionist, HGH dont increase performance level without the aid of steroids. If a fighter undergoes mandatory post fight testing it will be detected even with the help of flusher or a masking agent.

              Your other logic is flawed.
              Did u not rwad his post correctly? You guys are on t same side...
              It was a good post, proving that pac has been winning by speed, conditioning and skills... No reason to even mention steroids or hgh

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              • VoodooChild
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                #8
                Originally posted by ShoguNinja
                Wow! Thats the most Idiotic Logic that i ever heard to prove once guilt or innocence. Ask every sports nutritionist, HGH dont increase performance level without the aid of steroids. If a fighter undergoes mandatory post fight testing it will be detected even with the help of flusher or a masking agent.

                Your other logic is flawed.
                I think you've mistaken my post, I've posted the idiotic statements made by Pac haters and posted rebuttals below them.

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                • Pacdbest
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MindBat
                  Accusing anyone of using drugs without proof or evidence is foolish.

                  The ONLY way is via random testing. Nobody accuses every pro boxer of being on any drugs BUT they are ALL given the benefit of doubt and must submit to drug testing to prove their innocence until proven guilty. This goes for every pro athlete.

                  Accusing anyone of using drugs without proof , that's a slander!!! Pac will win this case!! He's more Charismatic & more Believable than any of the Mayweather clan.

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                  • ShoguNinja
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by VoodooChild
                    I think you've mistaken my post, I've posted the idiotic statements made by Pac haters and posted rebuttals below them.
                    Sorry Man! I was threading in two different post!

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