Was Wlad Ever Here?

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  • realheavyhands
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    #21
    Originally posted by Neuraxis
    You aren't presenting the accurate story here. Everyone was praising Rahman for how he looked during Meehan fight, and Vitali made that statement and followed by his other comments that he wasn't impressed with Rahman.
    no i have the broadcast on tape

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    • Boxerdog
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      #22
      Originally posted by realheavyhands
      whats huge to you... how much can you bench
      I am disabled with chronic back problems but still have a chest measuring 54'' normal 57 1/2" expanded. Huge is a relative term.
      The point is that my legs are very small in comparison and your statement was very irresponsible.

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      • DR. FREECLOUD
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        #23
        Originally posted by Boxerdog
        All I know is that you know very little.
        I have had a huge upper torso since I started lifting in Junior High.(1966 and '67) I also have rather small legs. I have never juiced or in fact taken any special supplements. Just multiple vitamins.
        It's about body type.
        dog i totally agree with you. i on the otherhand have huge legs while my upperbody seems to not be able to grow. i worked out for several years and tried everything to get a chest and arms. while i could bench in my prime 450-500 i looked like i would have a hard time getting 250-300 to even move. but that was many years and beers ago. i am back in the gym now and improving my health once again. funny thing is that my legs have never lost size. well cept my right calf. i had a skateboarding accident and turned my foot aournd backwards. it didn't break anything it just tore every tendon and ligament. i was in a hard cast for 9 months. but its back to normal after i had theropy.

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        • BrooklynBomber
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          #24
          Most of the fighters have rather thin legs and bigger upper torso.this is mainly due to amount of cardio we do. Our legs are rather strong but most of the times are thin. Also Vitaly does not look like he does roids. He is way to lean and his masculature is not very impressice. Yes he is athletic but definately not bulky.

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          • Kid Achilles
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            #25
            There are many different kinds of steroids and other performance enhancing drugs. Even though Vitali's physique isn't eye popping, it's still a possibility that he's on something. I am not saying that the guy is on roids for sure, but I would not write him off as drug free just because he doesn't have his younger brother's proportions and shoulder width.

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            • GranTorino
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              #26
              Originally posted by SacTown1
              long winded statement brother, why not just say that Vlad's a bum??
              Cause he'd be wrong. He wasted a half hour typing that up for no better reason than to hate on a boxer he doesn't like. Pathetic.

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              • Derranged_
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                #27
                Originally posted by Neuraxis
                A lot of people seem to be fooling themselves with all of this talk about whether Wlad is back or not, especially when the standard of him being back requires that he do something that he was never able to do pre Sanders which is beat someone with good power and a good chin. He lost to the only three opponents he faced, all of which had two things in common. These three opponents, Puritty, Sanders, and Brewster, all had good power and a good chin. Puritty has the best chin of the bunch and he has 30 wins with 27 KO's, Sanders has 40 wins with 30 KO's (all of his decisions except Puritty were pre 1995), and Brewster who has 31 wins and 27 KO's.

                A lot of people who insist that Wlad isn’t even close to being back yet, are either A) fooling themselves or B) buying into the pre-Sanders hype created by HBO that Wlad could have beat Lewis. If Wlad would have fought Lewis after he beat McCline and Lewis would have fought him instead of Tyson, Lewis would have beat up on him pretty badly. Like Sanders proved, Wlad’s defense was horrible and he reacted very poorly to being hit with multiple power shots in a row. Let’s examine Wlad’s opponents from Barrett to Castillo, by characterizing how each of his opponents fought him into one of four categories. I think that it’s safe to say which category presents the biggest challenge to Wlad.

                Sofhitters: Barrett, Byrd
                Scared of Wlad's Power: Shufford, McCline, Moli, TOS, Castillo
                Over the hill: Mercer, Botha, Nicholson
                Glass Chin, Hard Hitter: Jefferson
                Solid Chin, Hard Hitters: Sanders, Brewster

                After his loss to Sanders he fought Moli, Nicholson, Brewster, TOS, and Castillo. Moli, was probably the worst post-Sanders opponent Wlad fought was KO'd in 1 by Wlad. Nicholson who while he was over the hill was still able to easily outbox Tua for 5 rounds before Tua KO'd him in the 6th. Nicholson fought somewhat scared against Wlad, constantly clinching him while Wlad outboxed him and TKO'd him in 4th. Wlad looked the closest to the old Wlad against Moli and Nicholson.

                After the Nicholson fight, Wlad started working with Emanuel Steward, who felt the need to change a lot of things about Wlad's style and how he fought. Because of this, he looked nothing like the old Wlad, and I really wondered whether Steward was ruining Wlad. Instead of fighting Brewster where he looked hurried and awkward and TOS where he looked unsure of himself and awkward, Wlad should have fought much easier opposition while he was making the switch in style.

                Against Castillo, it was clear that Wlad is finally comfortable with Steward's new style. Losing 4+ lbs. and sparring more also seemed to help him out quite a bit as well. Wlad had great footwork, he was able to throw combinations (which he struggled to do against Brewster and which he found impossible to do against TOS), he improved his defense, and he fought like the patient Wlad of the past.

                As long as Wlad stays away from the hard hitters with good chins, he will most likely keep on winning. The true test will come when he fights a hard hitter with a good chin. If he doesn't win, it won’t prove that Wlad isn’t back because the old Wlad would have lost every single time to that kind of opponent. If he wins, it will prove that the new Wlad is here.
                By the ridicously large number of threads on Wlad Klitscho on this forum, you would think so! I mean in the past week alone Wlad is all this boxing community is talking about!

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                • Boxerdog
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BostonGuy
                  By the ridicously large number of threads on Wlad Klitscho on this forum, you would think so! I mean in the past week alone Wlad is all this boxing community is talking about!
                  It's a boxing forum dude and he just fought. Next week it will be Ruiz and Toney...all you can eat!!

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                  • Neuraxis
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by GranTorino
                    Cause he'd be wrong. He wasted a half hour typing that up for no better reason than to hate on a boxer he doesn't like. Pathetic.
                    Huh, how was I hating? I thought I was one of the bigger WK fans here, or maybe I am missing something.

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                    • Neuraxis
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BostonGuy
                      By the ridicously large number of threads on Wlad Klitscho on this forum, you would think so! I mean in the past week alone Wlad is all this boxing community is talking about!
                      LOL, yeah I guess two threads in the front page of the non stop boxing forum is a "ridicously large number of threads" to you.

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