Should Manny Pacquiao sue Team Mayweather for Slander? Official Poll!

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manny has every right to question testing methods that

1. will be performed by a body of floyd's choice
2. never been done before in boxing
3. is being pursued based on accusations made by floyds camp in the first place

gbp came out with statements saying manny rejected the tests outright. sr. and oscar came out with statements that is defaming to his name.

manny is open to undergo the additional testing which no professional fighter has ever done. just not willing to bend over all the way and make him do things that are unnecessary and he is uncomfortable with.

floyd doesn't make up the rules. manny has every right to file a lawsuit.

You show you have no knowledge of contract negotiations or contract law. Let me help educate you.

In a contract such as this, either party can request anything almost of the other party, as long as it is not illegal. Sort of like I can agree to dance for you at your daughters party, but you have to provide purple pinstripe thong for me to wear,,,, If I sign the contract and it is not illegal then, I have a contractual obligation as well as you do, as the contract has to have a performance an exchange and be legal.

You may want to study up on contract law, I did it for 5 years, before switching to Pharmaceutical Sales.

You will see this lawsuit dismissed easily. The grounds of this defamation of character vs Mayweather team. Point out to me, who on Mayweathers teams, SAID HE WAS TAKING STERIODS. Mayweather Sr, is not part of the Mayweather team. Requesting this testing, is something that is being done throughout the united states and is becomeing more and more common. He will lose this arguement, is smashing fashion. In fact the courts are so against doping that, they may laugh at pacman's claim and instead make it mandotory, based on the fact that several high profile boxers have indeed beaten the urine testing standards.


You need to leave out the legal arguement of no professional fighter has ever. That has nothing to do with THIS contract. Has any professional fighter ever been fined 10 million dollars for each pound they are over the limit? This is part of the contract that Mayweather team had to agree to.

What I encourage you to do, is before saying what is legal and not, learn the law. Your arguement is valid in the streets, but not in a court.

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But Floyd didn't sign, therefore the contract is an irrelevant piece of paper unless signed by both parties. Completely meaningless.

Your correct if Floyd did not sign. My understanding was Floyd signed first, then Pacman signed, all by the 1st week in Dec, with this blood testing procedure included in it. In fact I recall Roach discussing this issue, back in early dec, and indicating it would be a very minor issue to resolve.

You correct a contract is only valid until both parties have agreed ( it does not have to be signed, if any agreed upon action or exchange has taken place. Verbal agreenments are accepted in every state of the US, however just to be clear here, there has been nothing done yet on either part that was indicated in the contract to be done specifically for this fight) to the terms and a specific action has been done or expected to be done, a exchange of money, barter, services etc.. agreed upon in return, and it has to be legal.

Thus this suit by pacqio will be completley laughed out of the courtroom. Now pacman's stance is a good one, and should be used in their leverage during CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, but he can't sue because Mayweather team is asking him to submit to blood testing. That is ******. All he has to say is NO, and if there is no signed contract already, then they go their seperate ways. His suit for slander should be against Mayweather Sr, he was the one who actually said this.

[The Hammer]

Most definitely.

[Dondi33O]

Nice comeback

[aether]

You show you have no knowledge of contract negotiations or contract law. Let me help educate you.

In a contract such as this, either party can request anything almost of the other party, as long as it is not illegal. Sort of like I can agree to dance for you at your daughters party, but you have to provide purple pinstripe thong for me to wear,,,, If I sign the contract and it is not illegal then, I have a contractual obligation as well as you do, as the contract has to have a performance an exchange and be legal.

manny is not suing because of what is on the contract (which was never signed in the first place). he is suing cause of defamation in his character based on the actions of the gbp (which represents floyd) and floyd sr.

You will see this lawsuit dismissed easily. The grounds of this defamation of character vs Mayweather team.

Mayweather Sr, is not part of the Mayweather team.

i think manny would sue floyd sr. and gbp. he can do that right? cause i haven't studied 5 years law like you.

Point out to me, who on Mayweathers teams, SAID HE WAS TAKING STERIODS.

golden boy, floyd sr, and roger mayweather have come out with statements that make it seem like manny rejected the tests outright, which is not the case at all. it gives the impression of manny trying to hide something and his name has definitely taken a hit because of it. not to mention, floyd sr. started making claims about him cheating a while back.

he was already being treated guilty by subjecting him to tests that has no basis to even be pursued in the first place. he agreed to the terms to an extent to make it clear that he has nothing to hide, just not to the point where he would think that such tests would affect his performance

Requesting this testing, is something that is being done throughout the united states and is becomeing more and more common. He will lose this arguement, is smashing fashion. In fact the courts are so against doping that, they may laugh at pacman's claim and instead make it mandotory, based on the fact that several high profile boxers have indeed beaten the urine testing standards.

manny is questioning the tests cause it has never been done in his sport ever. that seems reasonable to me. he agreed to the additional, unnecessary tests with the exception of no blood too close before the fight. one has to question what floyd's camp motive is when he requested the additional tests.

manny's compromise is more than sufficient to satisfy floyd's paranoia. and he didn't even have to agree to the never-been-done before tests.

You need to leave out the legal arguement of no professional fighter has ever. That has nothing to do with THIS contract. Has any professional fighter ever been fined 10 million dollars for each pound they are over the limit? This is part of the contract that Mayweather team had to agree to.

this is different cause floyd has a history of coming in overweight. manny has no history of being on PED's

What I encourage you to do, is before saying what is legal and not, learn the law. Your arguement is valid in the streets, but not in a court.

i don't claim that my opinion is as educated compared to someone like yours. i just used logic and reasoning for my agument. if it is not enough for you, then it would be best for you to ignore my posts.

You may want to study up on contract law, I did it for 5 years, before switching to Pharmaceutical Sales.

i might, Attorney wpink1 PHD...

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manny is not suing because of what is on the contract (which was never signed in the first place). he is suing cause of defamation in his character based on the actions of the gbp (which represents floyd) and floyd sr.




i think manny would sue floyd sr. and gbp. he can do that right? cause i haven't studied 5 years law like you.



golden boy, floyd sr, and roger mayweather have come out with statements that make it seem like manny rejected the tests outright, which is not the case at all. it gives the impression of manny trying to hide something and his name has definitely taken a hit because of it. not to mention, floyd sr. started making claims about him cheating a while back.



manny is questioning the tests cause it has never been done in his sport ever. that seems reasonable to me. he agreed to the additional, unnecessary tests with the exception of no blood too close before the fight. one has to question what floyd's camp motive is when he requested the additional tests.

manny's compromise is more than sufficient to satisfy floyd's paranoia. and he didn't even have to agree to the never-been-done before tests.



this is different cause floyd has a history of coming in overweight. manny has no history of being on PED's



i might, Attorney wpink1 PHD...

Manny can sue for anything he would like and sue whomever he would like. As you can. However, contract law, which this is about, and defamation of character, will come down what did any representative of the Mayweather team say/do to cause pain, suffering, a negative impact to Pacman's career and what is the cost of that.

Mayweather Sr, surely said some things that could be considered slander. However he is not Mayweather jr, nor to my best understanding a paid representative of their team. I think Mayweather team could easily prove he is and was acting on his own merits. Simply pointing to he was going to train DLH to beat him, and all the public spats. This would be easy.

As for Mayweathr and Golden boy, I still have not hear them Accuse him of taking steriods, only insist on blood testing. There is no crime in that, nor anything that would have them liable in a court of law for that. Part of contract negotiations allows for this. Simply because no one has ever requested Blood testing for a fighter who has never tested positive before, means nothing. I do not think lance Armstrong tested positive before either. The more important thing is that it is part of Mayweathers request via the contract negotiations. I am certain that their legal team counseled them on ensuring that ellerbie, mayweather jr, nobody come out and accuse him of taking steriods, as I have closely watched what has been said, and they are very careful to avoid accusing. Thus the whole issue is they want it part of the fight, pacman doesn't. That is simply contract negotiations, 101. If Pacman team does not want it they should not have signed. Luckily for them Mayweather team apparently did not sign, thus they are not on the hook for defaulting a signed contract, Right now they can simply amend the contract to leave out this and coutner propose before Mayweather teams signs, and make this binding, or they can indicate that since both parties have not signed they are wanting to cancel this contract., which it appears they are doing.

This threat for a suit vs Mayweather is a simply a ploy, to get some heat off of him. Some in the media who hate mayweathr, or who do not understand contract law, will fall for it, but in the end you will see this case dismissed.

[DrewWoodside]

Manny can sue for anything he would like and sue whomever he would like. As you can. However, contract law, which this is about, and defamation of character, will come down what did any representative of the Mayweather team say/do to cause pain, suffering, a negative impact to Pacman's career and what is the cost of that.

Mayweather Sr, surely said some things that could be considered slander. However he is not Mayweather jr, nor to my best understanding a paid representative of their team. I think Mayweather team could easily prove he is and was acting on his own merits. Simply pointing to he was going to train DLH to beat him, and all the public spats. This would be easy.

As for Mayweathr and Golden boy, I still have not hear them Accuse him of taking steriods, only insist on blood testing. There is no crime in that, nor anything that would have them liable in a court of law for that. Part of contract negotiations allows for this. Simply because no one has ever requested Blood testing for a fighter who has never tested positive before, means nothing. I do not think lance Armstrong tested positive before either. The more important thing is that it is part of Mayweathers request via the contract negotiations. I am certain that their legal team counseled them on ensuring that ellerbie, mayweather jr, nobody come out and accuse him of taking steriods, as I have closely watched what has been said, and they are very careful to avoid accusing. Thus the whole issue is they want it part of the fight, pacman doesn't. That is simply contract negotiations, 101. If Pacman team does not want it they should not have signed. Luckily for them Mayweather team apparently did not sign, thus they are not on the hook for defaulting a signed contract, Right now they can simply amend the contract to leave out this and coutner propose before Mayweather teams signs, and make this binding, or they can indicate that since both parties have not signed they are wanting to cancel this contract., which it appears they are doing.

This threat for a suit vs Mayweather is a simply a ploy, to get some heat off of him. Some in the media who hate mayweathr, or who do not understand contract law, will fall for it, but in the end you will see this case dismissed.

Yeah I can see this not working out so well. But I really want Pacquiao to have some sort of an agressive response to Mayweather shennanigans.

[aether]

Manny can sue for anything he would like and sue whomever he would like. As you can. However, contract law, which this is about, and defamation of character, will come down what did any representative of the Mayweather team say/do to cause pain, suffering, a negative impact to Pacman's career and what is the cost of that.

Mayweather Sr, surely said some things that could be considered slander. However he is not Mayweather jr, nor to my best understanding a paid representative of their team. I think Mayweather team could easily prove he is and was acting on his own merits. Simply pointing to he was going to train DLH to beat him, and all the public spats. This would be easy.

yes, mayweather sr. is not a representive of floyd, nor gbp. but with his relationship with floyd jr., it is highly possible that his opinion on the matter is one of the elements that fueled this ped controversy.

As for Mayweathr and Golden boy, I still have not hear them Accuse him of taking steriods, only insist on blood testing. There is no crime in that, nor anything that would have them liable in a court of law for that. Part of contract negotiations allows for this. Simply because no one has ever requested Blood testing for a fighter who has never tested positive before, means nothing. I do not think lance Armstrong tested positive before either. The more important thing is that it is part of Mayweathers request via the contract negotiations. I am certain that their legal team counseled them on ensuring that ellerbie, mayweather jr, nobody come out and accuse him of taking steriods, as I have closely watched what has been said, and they are very careful to avoid accusing. Thus the whole issue is they want it part of the fight, pacman doesn't. That is simply contract negotiations, 101. If Pacman team does not want it they should not have signed. Luckily for them Mayweather team apparently did not sign, thus they are not on the hook for defaulting a signed contract, Right now they can simply amend the contract to leave out this and coutner propose before Mayweather teams signs, and make this binding, or they can indicate that since both parties have not signed they are wanting to cancel this contract., which it appears they are doing.

mayweather and gbp may not have said "Cheater, cheater steroids eater" outright but their statements regarding the matter has lead some to believe that manny is hiding something. statements like "I was right all along" or "I have to doubt manny" are definitely damaging.

This threat for a suit vs Mayweather is a simply a ploy, to get some heat off of him. Some in the media who hate mayweathr, or who do not understand contract law, will fall for it, but in the end you will see this case dismissed.

i think they are serious with the lawsuit. manny has been contemplating on filing one since floyd sr. came out with his allegations. i think arum handled the situation very poorly, and never had to come down to this. but his fighter is being subjected to unusual terms and is being treated like a cheater even before any evidence presented itself.

[Killa_Kali]

Junior can be pinned down in the lawsuit, courtesy of his Rugged Man interview

[DrewWoodside]

Junior can be pinned down in the lawsuit, courtesy of his Rugged Man interview

what is the time of the interview. I've heard it a few times but I'd like to skip to the part you think is incriminating.