Setting the record straight on Pac-May Drug Issue

[AIR_KENG]

Mayweather Camp: They want to ensure that he is on a level playing field if and when he fights Pacquiao on March 13, thus, the Olympic style drug testing.

Pacquiao Camp: Mayweather's camp can have all the urine testing they want (Arum said they can even do it everyday) but they will only agree to 3 scheduled drug tests. We all know how superstitious Manny is. It is something psychological, it weakens him psychologically. Everybody is just taking the 'afraid-of-needles' thing literally.

Experts: Those who are handling drug-tests for PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES say that urine testing is sufficient enough. Would you really believe Floyd Mayweather Sr over a trained and educated professional?

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Bottomline: Pacquiao is not running away from testing (again, 3 scheduled blood tests and as many urine tests they'd like). The guy is superstitious, and if you agree with Floyd about levelling the playing field, then we should not push him to do something that will derail from being in his best, mentally.

If Pacquiao had any history of drug-use, then the Olympic-style drug testing will be embraced, even by Pacfans. But on the contrary, the first and only accusation Pac has faced was from someone named Floyd Mayweather Sr.

Floyd Jr is trying to be recognized as the best boxer in the world outside of the ring instead of inside it. He is trying to tarnish Pac's reputation so he can move up the ranks.

FMJ and GBP should accept the compromise. If they question the NSAC now after years of operation, then they are questioning the credility of all the boxers that have fought in Nevada. And yes, that includes FMJ.

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What he said on ABS CBN interview set the record on this blood test.

He said he's ok with all the blood test but not on the day of the fight.

So if USADA decide to come 24 hour prior to fight. There would be nothing to hide if they do the blood test right after the fight.


PAC should have said this from the very beginning before people and haters became su****ious.

[- JCHING -]

Scheduled testing defeats the purpose and genuiness of these tests.

Pac is being unreasonable about the testing for the most ****** reasons. Superstitions and fears of needles?? Give me a break..

[gopi11]

Scheduled testing defeats the purpose and genuiness of these tests.

Pac is being unreasonable about the testing for the most ****** reasons. Superstitions and fears of needles?? Give me a break..

Try to shoot this down posted earlier by hanson7:

Some info on HGH (from online medical sources): HGH taken alone is actually ineffective in enhancing performance. What the studies show is that HGH can only be effective when it is taken in conjunction with anabolic steroids (i.e. steriods can be detected by urine testing). This means that in order to get the maximum effect an athlete must take both at the same time. The trouble with this fact is that as mentioned earlier anabolic steroids can easily be detected, and with a simple urine test you can already get caught. The information campaign could also lay some emphasis on the possible risks and side effects that can result from too much intake of HGH. Some of these are acromelagy, which in layman's terms is gigantism, increased risk of diabetes, swelling of joints, edema, being more prone to different types of cancer and many others. If this can be done then it would probably dissuade athletes from even thinking about taking HGH.

Bottom line: Some boxing writers right now (not mentioning Colin here) are trying to say a "one way street" on HGH, however, if you look at the medical facts . . its not "conclusive" and likely much is to be learned and studied about these drugs. However, No amount of drugs will (1) improve your skills and strategy in the ring e.g. if this drug made everybody smarter or gave them a new fountain of skills, everybody will be using it!; (2) the idea of bulking up, c'mon - PacMan is known and recognize for his "speed", not his bulk body or armor muscles. If you ask me, bulking up, would actually sacrifice your speed . . so isn't this an anti-thesis of the Pacquiao fast machine; (3) in this high stakes negotiation where each side attempts to get the better deal i.e. Mayweather's request was answered "half-way" by Pacquiao - 3 blood tests (after fight announcement, before 30 days and just after the fight), these blood tests are not required for professional/competitive boxing in Nevada (Las Vegas), but Pacquiao offered this. The test just after the fight, should provide conclusive and reliable evidence that meet Olympic standards if Pac took anything! (these drugs stay in the body at least a week, depending of quantity taken); (4) Let's take a look at the messenger of this "unsubstantiated allegations" - Mayweathers camp - goodness! these guys are not the bastion of honesty and purity, heck, they could produce a reality series with their numerous court cases, run-ins with the law, tax problems, what have you.

We don't know whether this fight will push through or not . . However, the ascent of Manny to the top of the boxing world was duly documented in 24/7/media outlets/stories that show: (a) Manny took long hours in the gym, working on a strategy, improving his right hand to be as good as the left hand i.e. if this guy was really on super-performance drugs - why waste too many hours in the gym when you have super strength? why improve your right hand, when with the aid of this wonder drug, all you need is an ultra-power left?; (b) Manny has not shown the behavior of a guy in super-drugs who is all "about me . . me . . i can do this easily". Instead, if you ask Manny - he will just say - "I will try my best to do well, hopefully to win for the Filipino people" or "give God glory". I have not heard any of those humble words from all the drug convicted top athletes; and (c) Finally, no amount of "Mayweather or his minions propaganda" nor articles from writers that quick to judge on unwarranted accusations - - Society and the fans (casual/hard-core) will collectively in its wisdom make their own decisions - and vote empathically with their wallets (e.g. PPV/gate attendance). That will be the definitive statement!.

[AIR_KENG]

Scheduled testing defeats the purpose and genuiness of these tests.

Pac is being unreasonable about the testing for the most ****** reasons. Superstitions and fears of needles?? Give me a break..

Scheduled blood tests... I think I mentioned as many urine tests they like... And urine testing is a more reliable test than blood testing... It is not unfair... About superstition, it is not ******. It is what you believe in. Otherwise known as faith.

Everyday urine testing should be sufficient for Floyd. If he wouldn't budge with that compromise, there is something with their camp.

[- JCHING -]

Try to shoot this down posted earlier by hanson7:

There is a reason for the random testing. If Pac is using anything, he can cycle it around his scheduled testing.

It's not hard to understand. Lots of sports use random tests for the sole reason it is alot more reliable and it removes the possibility of cycling.

I don't think Pac is using, but if he really isn't just agree to take the random tests up to 3 days before the fight. Simple.

[- JCHING -]

Scheduled blood tests... I think I mentioned as many urine tests they like... And urine testing is a more reliable test than blood testing... It is not unfair... About superstition, it is not ******. It is what you believe in. Otherwise known as faith.

Everyday urine testing should be sufficient for Floyd. If he wouldn't budge with that compromise, there is something with their camp.

Blood tests pick up things urine tests can't.

Faith in a religion or something is of course not ******. But believing that having a small amount of blood drawn from his body will sap him of his "powers" is ******.

[aether]

Try to shoot this down posted earlier by hanson7:

i definitely agree with what that dude said.

manny agreed to be tested in terms much stricter than nevada requires. why the fuck would he bend over completely with floyd's terms? cause of rumors started by floyd sr.?

what floyd is asking for is excessive, intrusive, and unnecessary. manny's compromise is more than fair.

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Try to shoot this down posted earlier by hanson7:

"HGH taken alone is actually ineffective in enhancing performance." How would he know? Where did he get his information from? It's not just HGH theres loads of other PED's.

[gopi11]

"HGH taken alone is actually ineffective in enhancing performance." How would he know? Where did he get his information from? It's not just HGH theres loads of other PED's.

Then enlighten him and some of the inquiring minds here that wants to know...