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  • Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
    Are you serious , Floyd is asking for the worlds most accurate testing protocol to guarantee his opponent is clean in a sport where a PEDS user has more chance of killing you ,,, Im here to tell you buddy thats not unreasonable as Floyds only demand after agreeing to all of Pacs ,, come on now your not that silly , if a judge was to rule on this Floyd wins in a landslide because of the nature of the contest , fighter safety , the world against PEDS etc etc the list goes on , mate give it up apply some common sense , you have lives at risk here , Floyd wins this argument anywhere , look at the world media and ask yourself who is siding up with Pac outside his team on an official level ,, nobody and Ive explained to you why , take your blinkers off bud !
    This is a bunch of crap right here. First off, Floyd has already said Manny would be an easy fight. This was AFTER Cotto-Pac.

    Second, Floyd has never had a problem with the NSAC doing the testing before, but know he wants another organization to do the testing? He's building an excuse right there.

    Third, Manny has agreed to EVERYTHING Floyd wanted except blood being drawn in the days leading to the fight. Why is it you're willing to give Floyd peace of mind with this testing, but you aren't willing to give Pac peace of mind by respecting his wishes?

    Fourth, please show me the list of PED users who have killed opponents in the ring? You claimed it was much easier for this to happen, please back it up with some facts.

    Just face it, Floyd has wormed his way out of this fight. He simply doesn't want to fight the best fighters at 147 and has an undeniable record of not fighting them.

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    • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      This is a bunch of crap right here. First off, Floyd has already said Manny would be an easy fight. This was AFTER Cotto-Pac.

      Second, Floyd has never had a problem with the NSAC doing the testing before, but know he wants another organization to do the testing? He's building an excuse right there.

      Third, Manny has agreed to EVERYTHING Floyd wanted except blood being drawn in the days leading to the fight. Why is it you're willing to give Floyd peace of mind with this testing, but you aren't willing to give Pac peace of mind by respecting his wishes?

      Fourth, please show me the list of PED users who have killed opponents in the ring? You claimed it was much easier for this to happen, please back it up with some facts.

      Just face it, Floyd has wormed his way out of this fight. He simply doesn't want to fight the best fighters at 147 and has an undeniable record of not fighting them.
      Mate your turning it into bull**** , what demands did Floyd have ? ring gloves weight and 10 mill forfeit all Mannys demands !!

      Common sense says a drug enhanced fighter that is stronger and faster because of the enhancement would have more chance of killing you than one who is not , now thats a given ,,,, when you come with utter **** Im out .

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      • Hi guys. I just reposted this from examiner.com. Hope you find this enlightening. I only added the top 5 that are discussed here. Enjoy!

        Floyd Mayweather's camp has repeatedly made claims against Manny Pacquiao. We attempt to discern fact from fiction. Additionally, we detail several fighters and athletes, current or prior, who have tested positive for any drugs.

        Camp Floyd's Claims

        Claim # 1: Floyd Mayweather, Sr and Roger Mayweather have repeatedly accused WBO and Ring welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao of taking performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs). Boxers Paulie Malignaggi and Kermit Cintron have aired similar public comments against the Filipino icon.

        Fact # 1: Pacquiao maintains a perfect record when it comes to fight-related tests throughout his career. The more visible fights have been administered by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) which conducts standardized tests across the sport, which all boxers are subject to. These programs have been administered for over four decades.

        Perfect testing record.



        Claim # 2: Floyd's camp, Malignaggi, and Cintron have claimed that Pacquiao cheated in his ascent to boxing's pound for pound summit.

        Fact # 2: It was Floyd Mayweather, Jr who cheated against Juan Manuel Marquez, a fighter two to three weight divisions under Floyd's normal fighting weight, in their September 2009 bout. Floyd tipped the scaled two pounds in excess of the contracted fight weight of 144 lbs. Mayweather's fine was a paltry $600,000 despite a reported guaranteed purse of $15 million. The fine represented 4% of the minimum guarantee, without factoring in pay-per-view (PPV) incentives. Did Golden Boy Promotions (GBP) sell out their client Juan Manuel Marquez? The Mexican would eventually suffer a shutout decision loss.

        Who really cheated?

        Claim # 3: In Floyd Mayweather's statement requesting an Olympic-style test, he alluded to the importance of competing in a "level playing field."

        Fact # 3: In March 2008, Pacquiao fought Juan Manuel Marquez and secured a third lineal title in the super featherweight division. Given that Camp Mayweather wanted the fight at the 154 lb. junior middleweight limit, this weight class represents four weight divisions (24 lbs) above the super featherweight limit. The Filipino has only fought at the 147 lb. weight limit once (against Oscar de la Hoya).

        Is fighting a smaller boxer a level playing field?

        Claim # 4: Camp Mayweather and Richard Schaefer of GBP wants Olympic-style blood and urine tests.

        Fact # 4: In 2008, Schaefer himself vehemently opposed this type of invasive testing for one of GBP's clients, Shane Mosley. In a statement, Schaefer mentioned that he would not allow Mosley to be treated like a cheater. Which is exactly the same logic as to why Pacquiao is now preparing a lawsuit against the Mayweathers and GBP.

        Olympic drug tests required now, but not required earlier?



        Claim # 5: There is a myth in the boxing community that "Pacquiao will not do the tests" and that "he is the one preventing the fight from happening."

        Fact # 5: Team Pacquiao has already agreed to more stringent tests - ones stricter than what the NSAC would normally require (which are exclusively urine tests). So long as those blood tests do not interfere with training leading up the fight (30 days prior and a day after the bout). As mentioned, these are beyond NSAC's normal protocol.

        Refuse to do the test?

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        • Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
          Mate your turning it into bull**** , what demands did Floyd have ? ring gloves weight and 10 mill forfeit all Mannys demands !!

          Common sense says a drug enhanced fighter that is stronger and faster because of the enhancement would have more chance of killing you than one who is not , now thats a given ,,,, when you come with utter **** Im out .
          Im coming with utter ****? Your the one who made the outrageous claim that fighters on PED's are more likely to kill someone in the ring. I just want to know what facts you have to back this claim?

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          • Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
            Mate your turning it into bull**** , what demands did Floyd have ? ring gloves weight and 10 mill forfeit all Mannys demands !!

            Common sense says a drug enhanced fighter that is stronger and faster because of the enhancement would have more chance of killing you than one who is not , now thats a given ,,,, when you come with utter **** Im out .
            so you don't think it's fair that Manny doesn't want to have blood taken right before the fight?

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            • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              Im coming with utter ****? Your the one who made the outrageous claim that fighters on PED's are more likely to kill someone in the ring. I just want to know what facts you have to back this claim?
              No worries mate a Juiced fighter that is stronger and faster has less chance , that is utter **** !!!!!

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              • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                Im coming with utter ****? Your the one who made the outrageous claim that fighters on PED's are more likely to kill someone in the ring. I just want to know what facts you have to back this claim?
                they wont give you facts... just like what floyd sr. is doing.

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                • Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
                  Mate your turning it into bull**** , what demands did Floyd have ? ring gloves weight and 10 mill forfeit all Mannys demands !!

                  Common sense says a drug enhanced fighter that is stronger and faster because of the enhancement would have more chance of killing you than one who is not , now thats a given ,,,, when you come with utter **** Im out .
                  you can't pick the ring size in vegas. from my understanding the ring size is standardized.

                  floyd can pick any gloves he want. the size of the gloves will be 8 ounce though.

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                  • Originally posted by voneric View Post
                    you people who think pacman is guilty are ***ing idiots. We all asked why didnt barry bonds or palmeiro didnt sue when they were accused but now its a show of guilt. I assume you guys are gayweather fans. If somebody falsely accused you of ****, without a shred of evidence, would that not damage your reputation. And thats what the mayweathers are doing. They are raping pacman of his accomplishments by convincing you simple morons that he is guilty, by not taking the tests. Its pointless to argue with simple morons, so i will finish with mayweather jr., sr, goldenboy, and mayweather fans are nancyboys
                    listen here you jack ass, manny is being as ridiculous as can be. Refusing first because he is afraid of needles hahahahahahaah now because a teaspoon of his blood will make him too weak? Come on, enough is enough, this guy is hiding something!!!! In this day and age roids are a big issue. If you are asked to take a test and refuse, you look guilty as hell. This will hurt pac throughout the history of boxing. Why would someone who is about to run for office refuse drug testing? You guys need to pull pacs **** out of your mouths and realize whats going on here. This fight ain't happening because pac is afraid he will be exposed as a cheater. Do you guys think he will win more in a law suit than what he could make in this fight? If he was as great as you all think he is, why doesn't he just fight, make 30+ million, beat mayweather, and prove to the world he's not on roids with proof??? The guy is guilty, thats why.

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                    • Originally posted by tudedude View Post
                      so you don't think it's fair that Manny doesn't want to have blood taken right before the fight?
                      I think its not up to him in this situation and not a case of an injustice done to him as if that was asked and we dont know that it is Floyd has the same test at the same time , there are videos of him giving blood with no problem at all , I think when your as high in the public eye as Manny is you are obligated to do everything asked in the name of PEDS free sport , its not up to the sportsman to say when and where they be tested , thats the price for being a such a well paid public figure .

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