Comments Thread For: Golden Boy Viewed as Hypocrites in Pacquiao Test Fiasco

[point]

Now oscar is saying manny punches like mosley and vargas!
He always said he didn't feel manny's power even after he lost!

[gopi11]

Some info on HGH (from online medical sources): HGH taken alone is actually ineffective in enhancing performance. What the studies show is that HGH can only be effective when it is taken in conjunction with anabolic steroids (i.e. steriods can be detected by urine testing). This means that in order to get the maximum effect an athlete must take both at the same time. The trouble with this fact is that as mentioned earlier anabolic steroids can easily be detected, and with a simple urine test you can already get caught. The information campaign could also lay some emphasis on the possible risks and side effects that can result from too much intake of HGH. Some of these are acromelagy, which in layman's terms is gigantism, increased risk of diabetes, swelling of joints, edema, being more prone to different types of cancer and many others. If this can be done then it would probably dissuade athletes from even thinking about taking HGH.

Bottom line: Some boxing writers right now (not mentioning Colin here) are trying to say a "one way street" on HGH, however, if you look at the medical facts . . its not "conclusive" and likely much is to be learned and studied about these drugs. However, No amount of drugs will (1) improve your skills and strategy in the ring e.g. if this drug made everybody smarter or gave them a new fountain of skills, everybody will be using it!; (2) the idea of bulking up, c'mon - PacMan is known and recognize for his "speed", not his bulk body or armor muscles. If you ask me, bulking up, would actually sacrifice your speed . . so isn't this an anti-thesis of the Pacquiao fast machine; (3) in this high stakes negotiation where each side attempts to get the better deal i.e. Mayweather's request was answered "half-way" by Pacquiao - 3 blood tests (after fight announcement, before 30 days and just after the fight), these blood tests are not required for professional/competitive boxing in Nevada (Las Vegas), but Pacquiao offered this. The test just after the fight, should provide conclusive and reliable evidence that meet Olympic standards if Pac took anything! (these drugs stay in the body at least a week, depending of quantity taken); (4) Let's take a look at the messenger of this "unsubstantiated allegations" - Mayweathers camp - goodness! these guys are not the bastion of honesty and purity, heck, they could produce a reality series with their numerous court cases, run-ins with the law, tax problems, what have you.

We don't know whether this fight will push through or not . . However, the ascent of Manny to the top of the boxing world was duly documented in 24/7/media outlets/stories that show: (a) Manny took long hours in the gym, working on a strategy, improving his right hand to be as good as the left hand i.e. if this guy was really on super-performance drugs - why waste too many hours in the gym when you have super strength? why improve your right hand, when with the aid of this wonder drug, all you need is an ultra-power left?; (b) Manny has not shown the behavior of a guy in super-drugs who is all "about me . . me . . i can do this easily". Instead, if you ask Manny - he will just say - "I will try my best to do well, hopefully to win for the Filipino people" or "give God glory". I have not heard any of those humble words from all the drug convicted top athletes; and (c) Finally, no amount of "Mayweather or his minions propaganda" nor articles from writers that quick to judge on unwarranted accusations - - Society and the fans (casual/hard-core) will collectively in its wisdom make their own decisions - and vote empathically with their wallets (e.g. PPV/gate attendance). That will be the definitive statement!.

How dare you throw facts around here! You ain't playing fair dammit!

[gopi11]

Apparently the NSAC may have to raise their standards and procedures on how they do their testing. If Shane, Vargas, Toney, and Chavez Jr. were able to fight while on performance enhancing drugs, without it being detected until after a fight, maybe the Olympic USADA style testing should now be the standard in all sports. If your on steriods, I want to know before I step a foot into the ring before I fight you, NOT afterwards. EVery fighter is looking for an advantage inside and outside the ring. Yes, Manny should be tested and held to that standard with so much money on the line!

Yeah! For a level playing field, Manny has to agree to undergo tests from an agency chosen by his opponent, nice going...

[MakeDamnSure]

Was Oscar saying that he didn't Feel Manny's punches and he said that if Hatton was fighting him he would get KTFO!.

All of these Liars including Floyd, Oscar and Shaefer should go to hell

[Emiliano Zapata]

Odlh

You can call me what you want as long as I have your money...

[jbin333]

ok ok ok, mayweather is starting to look for excuses to avoid having this fight take place....if other fighters out there such as malinaggi, bradley and even devon alexander are on record as saying they'll fight manny in any circumstance, why is the guy who thinks he's the best pound for pound fighter afraid to get in the ring with manny under the same testing procedures that are already in place!!!!!

now mind you, if it turns out that manny is a cheat, then we have to re-evaluate Cotto's only two losses....they would have come at the hands of two cheaters.....In both fights Cotto took a tremendous beating, his punches didn't seem to phase Manny....But as long as manny keeps doing what he's doing and as the article says he's never been linked to any performance enhancing drugs, then we simply have to say he's a GREAT fighter!!!!!

I hope this doesn't in anyway tarnish Manny's accomplishments!!!!

[pugay_kamay]

Some info on HGH (from online medical sources): HGH taken alone is actually ineffective in enhancing performance. What the studies show is that HGH can only be effective when it is taken in conjunction with anabolic steroids (i.e. steriods can be detected by urine testing). This means that in order to get the maximum effect an athlete must take both at the same time. The trouble with this fact is that as mentioned earlier anabolic steroids can easily be detected, and with a simple urine test you can already get caught. The information campaign could also lay some emphasis on the possible risks and side effects that can result from too much intake of HGH. Some of these are acromelagy, which in layman's terms is gigantism, increased risk of diabetes, swelling of joints, edema, being more prone to different types of cancer and many others. If this can be done then it would probably dissuade athletes from even thinking about taking HGH.

Bottom line: Some boxing writers right now (not mentioning Colin here) are trying to say a "one way street" on HGH, however, if you look at the medical facts . . its not "conclusive" and likely much is to be learned and studied about these drugs. However, No amount of drugs will (1) improve your skills and strategy in the ring e.g. if this drug made everybody smarter or gave them a new fountain of skills, everybody will be using it!; (2) the idea of bulking up, c'mon - PacMan is known and recognize for his "speed", not his bulk body or armor muscles. If you ask me, bulking up, would actually sacrifice your speed . . so isn't this an anti-thesis of the Pacquiao fast machine; (3) in this high stakes negotiation where each side attempts to get the better deal i.e. Mayweather's request was answered "half-way" by Pacquiao - 3 blood tests (after fight announcement, before 30 days and just after the fight), these blood tests are not required for professional/competitive boxing in Nevada (Las Vegas), but Pacquiao offered this. The test just after the fight, should provide conclusive and reliable evidence that meet Olympic standards if Pac took anything! (these drugs stay in the body at least a week, depending of quantity taken); (4) Let's take a look at the messenger of this "unsubstantiated allegations" - Mayweathers camp - goodness! these guys are not the bastion of honesty and purity, heck, they could produce a reality series with their numerous court cases, run-ins with the law, tax problems, what have you.

We don't know whether this fight will push through or not . . However, the ascent of Manny to the top of the boxing world was duly documented in 24/7/media outlets/stories that show: (a) Manny took long hours in the gym, working on a strategy, improving his right hand to be as good as the left hand i.e. if this guy was really on super-performance drugs - why waste too many hours in the gym when you have super strength? why improve your right hand, when with the aid of this wonder drug, all you need is an ultra-power left?; (b) Manny has not shown the behavior of a guy in super-drugs who is all "about me . . me . . i can do this easily". Instead, if you ask Manny - he will just say - "I will try my best to do well, hopefully to win for the Filipino people" or "give God glory". I have not heard any of those humble words from all the drug convicted top athletes; and (c) Finally, no amount of "Mayweather or his minions propaganda" nor articles from writers that quick to judge on unwarranted accusations - - Society and the fans (casual/hard-core) will collectively in its wisdom make their own decisions - and vote empathically with their wallets (e.g. PPV/gate attendance). That will be the definitive statement!.

Nice post!

[pugay_kamay]

i researched this

and they should also published something about xylocaine...

i researched that too....

mclovin should be mentioned. i emailed michael marley about GBPs double standard. he published it after 30 minutes. bastard he didnt mention my name ...

Easy man. Keep it cool. That's what you call IPR ( Intellectual Property Rights! )

[jprmear]

Because they think of themselves as a genius in boxing..yeah genius who dont have any brains at all! why not try to analyze Manny Pacquiao responds to the blood test that they insist? he doesnt say no and in fact he is willing to do the test but not on the night before the fight instead right after the fight. now if you have a "common sense" and the so called "respect" then matters shouldnt come out to this extent suing them to court. i thought they were all genius, but they were bunch of idiots too!!!

[mrsjt]

Oscar De La Hoya has always been a publicity scumbag. After Manny embarrassed and retired him, he has picked Manny to lose in every fight!! What's even more hypocritical was that before Manny fought Cotto, Oscar flat out said that Manny doesn't hit that hard!!! Now all of a sudden, Oscar is saying that Manny hits like Mosley and Vargas!!! What an idiot!

As for Mayweather talking about an "even level playing field", where was that when he challenged Marquez??? Not only was Marquez a 36 yr old lightweight made to move up, but Floyd didn't even weigh in the agreed 144 catchweight!!! The day before the fight, Floyd just weighed whatever he wanted!! How the **** was that an "EVEN LEVEL PLAYING FIELD"???

HYPOCRITES!!!!

word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!