Comments Thread For: Golden Boy Viewed as Hypocrites in Pacquiao Test Fiasco

[El Jesus]

So all this posturing by GBP/M**ey Mayweather, Is it for the betterment of the sport or is it some sleazeball maneuver ?

i would say both. its better for the sport, but its being done for selfish reasons, its a win win for mayweather.

[Marduke]

Both Mayweather and Pac will be subjected to the tests. Its not one guy being pursecuted... in this together.

Uh, but who's the one calling for the testing to be done? It's not like the NSAC is calling for both fighters to have Olympic style testing. Mayweather knows Pacquaio is not on PEDs, he just wants to put doubt in everyone's minds, and to give him some excuse if/when he does lose.

Mayweather loses?

Well there are drugs that can't be caught...

And there are chemicals to mess with test results...

His family is already starting to say that USADA results wouldn't be enough to know for sure.

It's all just a ploy.

[Maidana vs Rios]

total ****in 100% self-ownage

hypocrisy at its finest!



bottom line? floyd don't want none.

floyd, self-proclaimed greatest of all time, is hesitant to fight a midget who's easy to hit, shorter height, shorter reach, smaller weight, with crude boxing technique at best.

did you know that bees and dogs can smell fear? :laugh:

[hanson7]

Some info on HGH (from online medical sources): HGH taken alone is actually ineffective in enhancing performance. What the studies show is that HGH can only be effective when it is taken in conjunction with anabolic steroids (i.e. steriods can be detected by urine testing). This means that in order to get the maximum effect an athlete must take both at the same time. The trouble with this fact is that as mentioned earlier anabolic steroids can easily be detected, and with a simple urine test you can already get caught. The information campaign could also lay some emphasis on the possible risks and side effects that can result from too much intake of HGH. Some of these are acromelagy, which in layman's terms is gigantism, increased risk of diabetes, swelling of joints, edema, being more prone to different types of cancer and many others. If this can be done then it would probably dissuade athletes from even thinking about taking HGH.

Bottom line: Some boxing writers right now (not mentioning Colin here) are trying to say a "one way street" on HGH, however, if you look at the medical facts . . its not "conclusive" and likely much is to be learned and studied about these drugs. However, No amount of drugs will (1) improve your skills and strategy in the ring e.g. if this drug made everybody smarter or gave them a new fountain of skills, everybody will be using it!; (2) the idea of bulking up, c'mon - PacMan is known and recognize for his "speed", not his bulk body or armor muscles. If you ask me, bulking up, would actually sacrifice your speed . . so isn't this an anti-thesis of the Pacquiao fast machine; (3) in this high stakes negotiation where each side attempts to get the better deal i.e. Mayweather's request was answered "half-way" by Pacquiao - 3 blood tests (after fight announcement, before 30 days and just after the fight), these blood tests are not required for professional/competitive boxing in Nevada (Las Vegas), but Pacquiao offered this. The test just after the fight, should provide conclusive and reliable evidence that meet Olympic standards if Pac took anything! (these drugs stay in the body at least a week, depending of quantity taken); (4) Let's take a look at the messenger of this "unsubstantiated allegations" - Mayweathers camp - goodness! these guys are not the bastion of honesty and purity, heck, they could produce a reality series with their numerous court cases, run-ins with the law, tax problems, what have you.

We don't know whether this fight will push through or not . . However, the ascent of Manny to the top of the boxing world was duly documented in 24/7/media outlets/stories that show: (a) Manny took long hours in the gym, working on a strategy, improving his right hand to be as good as the left hand i.e. if this guy was really on super-performance drugs - why waste too many hours in the gym when you have super strength? why improve your right hand, when with the aid of this wonder drug, all you need is an ultra-power left?; (b) Manny has not shown the behavior of a guy in super-drugs who is all "about me . . me . . i can do this easily". Instead, if you ask Manny - he will just say - "I will try my best to do well, hopefully to win for the Filipino people" or "give God glory". I have not heard any of those humble words from all the drug convicted top athletes; and (c) Finally, no amount of "Mayweather or his minions propaganda" nor articles from writers that quick to judge on unwarranted accusations - - Society and the fans (casual/hard-core) will collectively in its wisdom make their own decisions - and vote empathically with their wallets (e.g. PPV/gate attendance). That will be the definitive statement!.

[-Antonio-]

I had to sig this earlier. It's exactly what's wrong with it all.

[Maidana vs Rios]

Meanwhile, at Golden Boy headquarters...

errrr....ummmmm.......

**crickets chirping**

[JOM'S]

but a B.S. POSTER still did beat you guys on this news .... he did his homework!!

[Maidana vs Rios]

but a B.S. POSTER still did beat you guys on this news .... he did his homework!!

I missed it. Can you link me to the thread?

[JOM'S]

but nice questione MARK!

Mark Vester : I ask this. Why is Pacquiao, who never failed a single drug test or had any BALCO scandal hanging over his head, being treated like a cheater?

[Kobayashi]

From Oscar:

"Now I have to wonder about him. I’m saying to myself, ‘Wow. Those Mosley punches, those Vargas punches and those Pacquiao punches all felt the same.’ ...

This can be against him in court. Oscar used to say that Pac wasn`t that strong until now.