Explain to me what the problem is with giving blood the day before the fight?

[Doctor_Tenma]

Uh, you make it sound like he hasn't explained it. Pacquaio doesn't feel 100% for a day or two after having blood drawn. When I went through Basic Training all sorts of people would pass out from a little blood drawn for tests, some big tough dudes even. People respond differently.

But for a ****** like you, no test will ever be good enough and will always have a question mark on it.

Internet gangster

Since your talking about how people react to having their blood drawn, Pacquiao sure looked comfortable having a tube of blood taken out of him. Keyword: Tube, now imagine a teaspoon

[Ray*]

First of all, Arum is the one that wants to dictate the schedule. Manny agreed to the random, plus a day before and immediately after the fight. He just doesn't want it the day of the fight. I think you can agree that is pretty reasonable. There in lies the problem though, they can't guarantee they won't draw blood on the day of the fight.

Manny is his own man but i have heard more excuse in 24 hours on why manny pac would be able to take a random test.

He doesnt like needle( Then they post a video of him getting tatoos/drawing blood..kill).

He superstious after lossing to Morales( Then someone point out the gloves excuse that they claimed lost them the Morales fight).

Then its they would do the test but only before the presser and after the fight (Then that looke even more dodgy).

Then it was Mayweather was going to rig the test because GBP have a friendship with the Anti doping agency( That was killed when someone suggest why would GBP want to kill a fight they would be making millions on)

Then it was Mayweather is trying to look for a mental advantage( That was killed when people keep reminding them that Mayweather is subjected to the same test too) The excuses goes on and on and am shocked.

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How do you know both fighter would be tested a day or so before the fight???

They don't. No one does, and that's the problem. Manny believes that if he gets blood drawn from him the day, he'll be weaker. I know its not science, but its what he believes. He feels he won't be 100% for the fight. That doesn't mean he's hiding anything, does it?

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Manny is his own man but i have heard more excuse in 24 hours on why manny pac would be able to take a random test.

He doesnt like needle( Then they post a video of him getting tatoos/drawing blood..kill).

He superstious after lossing to Morales( Then someone point out the gloves excuse that they claimed lost them the Morales fight).

Then its they would do the test but only before the presser and after the fight (Then that looke even more dodgy).

Then it was Mayweather was going to rig the test because GBP have a friendship with the Anti doping agency( That was killed when someone suggest why would GBP want to kill a fight they would be making millions on)

Then it was Mayweather is trying to look for a mental advantage( That was killed when people keep reminding them that Mayweather is subjected to the same test too) The excuses goes on and on and am shocked.

Agree, and unfortunately, Pac's team has done more harm than good. But ultimately, Pac calls the shots. So I gotta go with what Pac says.

[Doctor_Tenma]

They don't. No one does, and that's the problem. Manny believes that if he gets blood drawn from him the day, he'll be weaker. I know its not science, but its what he believes. He feels he won't be 100% for the fight. That doesn't mean he's hiding anything, does it?

That's unture because we're talking about a sample of blood. He probably has to get his finger pricked. That's very little blood we're talking about. He could easily recover from that in 10-20 mins, lets be real here. That's a lame excuse.

[4themind]

I don't think there would be a problem from the USADA's point of view (the supposed testers here), apparently they said they wouldn't test 48 hours before the fight, apprently shaeffer(and perhaps floyd) are ok with this too(according to a recent article over at ESPN)


The issue is that bob arum is out there saying that the soonest time he wants tests before the fight is 30 days before hand, not (apparently) what manny is saying .

Arum is his agent and representative in negotiations, so beyond saying what he wants in front of the cameras (which is still cool) he needs to make sure his wishes are being reflected by his representation, if he wants to continue to help the fight happen from his end. I mean this certainly wouldn't be the first time that an agent-athelete miscommunication would has submarined a deal, and it would be a shame if we don't get to see these two battle it out because of that.

[DiLLiNGER]

If we go by what manny said, he say's he's willing to give blood a day before the fight and immediately after in addition to have the tests in the weeks prior to the fight. Where is the problem there?

What is manny going to take something for ONE day? Using any type of steroid for one day will do jack ****, further it would likely be detected in the blood test immediately after the fight.

Most steroids takes weeks to have an effect and many, would have a negative effective if you were to take it a day before a fight.

Pacqiuao has said through his handlers that he’ll agree to his blood being tested three times. #1- In January, #2-thirty days before the fight and #3 - right after the fight.

Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean. "There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," Tygart said. "It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.” Tygert also added the schedule Arum is proposing won't work, because a fighter would have the advantage of knowing when he'd be tested. “That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”

So, there you have it. It sounds logical to me!

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That's unture because we're talking about a sample of blood. He probably has to get his finger pricked. That's very little blood we're talking about. He could easily recover from that in 10-20 mins, lets be real here. That's a lame excuse.

Thats not true, the only test that can be done is blood sugar and cholesterol but either way it any blood test would not weaken you.

I dunno why Floyd apologist have hard time grasping it. PAC said he's willing to do the blood test but not in the fight day. So it means they can do it anytime before March 13. He did not set the time and the day.

Now Floyd apologist goes by what Arm
said yesterday to suit their argument.

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Pacqiuao has said through his handlers that he’ll agree to his blood being tested three times. #1- In January, #2-thirty days before the fight and #3 - right after the fight.

Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean. "There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," Tygart said. "It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.” Tygert also added the schedule Arum is proposing won't work, because a fighter would have the advantage of knowing when he'd be tested. “That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”

So, there you have it. It sounds logical to me!

Pacquiao was interviewed and said he's willing to be tested the day before the fight but not the day of! How hard is that to comprehend? Tell me what can go undetected in about 24 hrs.

[neezynola]

*** it pacroid cheats its not a big deal its jus he got so mnany nuthuggers that think hes great for some reason