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  • #71
    Of course, MAB can beat Manny in a rematch. That, is, if Manny becomes overconfident and does not do his homework. But with Roach, Manny will behave.

    My hat's off to Morales who did not say "it was not me out there against MAB".

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    • #72
      I just want to see the fight!!!! lol.... no point arguing what might be the outcome cause we'll never really know. What I would like to see is Pacman flooring JMM. A knockout, not a knockdown. Then doing a repeat of whatever he did to Barrera previously. Can Barrera beat Manny? Maybe, maybe not... who really knows? Bring it on and enjoy the fight I say.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Hurlex
        jmm clearly won that fight in my head...but who "should" have gotten the win should have been pac..just cuz of that 10-6 round crap...anyway...from what i saw (what i mean is) JMM can and might take pac easy now that he knows what to do and what not to...but i wanna know from a pac fan...what about manny not being able to ko JMM and getting schooled for a lot of those rounds tells u he can walk threw JMM the second time around...

        cuz what i am hearing is not "its gonna be a close good fight"...what manny fans are saying is manny will ko him fast...my q..is why???why do u take so much away from JMM
        same here bro...no hate for jmm and all the great mexican warriors like mab and erik. i love to see those guys fight and they've contributed greatly to what boxing is now. i just hate arrogant and disrespectful people...as for manny, i know this may sound like an excuse to you but i believe that the main reason why he wasn't able to ko jmm was because he hurt his foot after the 1st round...if you look closely starting from the 3rd round, you'd notice that his mobility was down. i believe it was in 6th round when he told freddie roach that his foot was hurting. i don't know if you heard it, but i did.

        not only that, i believe that jmm's physical attributes are already on the downhill (power, speed, stamina, etc) while manny's has still some 2-3 years to reach its peak. nacho knows that the only way jmm can win against pac is to surpass the former's stamina coupled with jmm's boxing and counterpunching skills. to add to that, manny's learning curve is on the steep rise at this point having roach on his side while jmm's has already plateaud. i don't think jmm will improve that much while manny has still a big room for improvement... and this is where i rely most of my prediction. manny will be much a better fighter compared to his self on may 8. jmm will be a better fighter too having faced the pacman already and thus will know what to do. but the only difference is -- manny will be the more improved than the two.

        jmm the second time around will face a more matured, more intelligent, and more skilled pacman than the one he fought in may. and jmm knows he still has to contend with the blazing speed, stamina and firepower. manny is real lucky that roach really cares about him. the roach factor will be the main difference in their next match IMHO. my 2 cents worth.
        Last edited by JaNnO; 11-30-2004, 01:28 AM.

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        • #74
          If i've learned anything about Barrera, it's this: don't count him out in any fight at this stage in his career. The guys got more lives than a cat.

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          • #75
            he can, but Pac is going to give him a hell of a fight

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Epie2
              Of course, MAB can beat Manny in a rematch. That, is, if Manny becomes overconfident and does not do his homework. But with Roach, Manny will behave.

              My hat's off to Morales who did not say "it was not me out there against MAB".

              This is with fairness opinion. I really think MAB is not 100% on that fight with Pacman. If you are going to compare it with his previous fights against Ayala and Morales, I can say he was different.

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              • #77
                very true..when u compare the mab that fought pac..he wasnt the same one before that fight or after...so we'll wait and see either way it will be one hell of a fight..at 130 of course

                i think mab has his confidence back...and i wouldnt wanna f**k with a mab thats has a clear head and 100% confidence behind him

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                • #78
                  But I still go for Pacman when they face again.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by pso_junior
                    Manny will not beat JMM . . . well how sure are you? Did Arum divulged to you his secret that the scorecards for the Pac/JMM rematch were already done? With Eric's loss I'm sure Arum will move Heavens and Earth to ensure JMM's victory for TOP RANKS to stay in the championship picture. yEAH JMM by U.D.! Don't you think Team Pac headed by Roach doesn't know what inside Arum's head? JMM won't get up from the canvas this time so there's no need for the ****I'N ****** judges.

                    Yeah JMM vs MAB . . .then MAB retires . . . keep on
                    dreaming!
                    amen to that bro.......better pacman-mab2
                    scorecards are already rigged for pacman-jmm so why bother with jmm...he doesnt want a rematch anyway.............chicken!!!

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Hurlex
                      very true..when u compare the mab that fought pac..he wasnt the same one before that fight or after...so we'll wait and see either way it will be one hell of a fight..at 130 of course

                      i think mab has his confidence back...and i wouldnt wanna f**k with a mab thats has a clear head and 100% confidence behind him
                      When you fight PAC, you won't be the same. Power punches comming in bundles of 4-5-6 combinations. Speed which just gets better and better as round go by. Power which can make you sleep in a coma. Un rivaled will and determination. He is the only fighter in the featherweight division who can charge anybody up from round 1 to 12 without pause and without hesitation. JMM doesn't have that. MAB doesn't have that. Add that up and you have KO for both thes pansies.

                      JMM
                      I can't believe the degree of ******ity these people say about JMM beating pac. First, the judges rigged the decision. Second, PAC was fighting with a broken left fist and scarred feet. Next time around. PAC won't be standing still. He will be the same pac who is relentless and unstoppable from round 1 to 12.

                      MAB
                      Did't you see the fight people? Are you fools? For every punch MAB gave to PAC, PAC gave him 4 power punches back. If they didn't stopped the fight. PAC would have immobilized MAB permanently.

                      You're all into denial here thinking you're precious MAB will beat Pac in the rematch. In the first place, MAB is now too COWARDLY to face PAC. He knows he will get the same BEATING when they face again. Probably more beating. PACMAN will take MAB to school and he will make sure MAB retires, in a wheelchair. lol!

                      Just ponder on this. When PAC first fought MAB, PAC still had raw moves and predictable tactics. Now, with an all improved PAC. Add the stamina of 10 men, add the speed unrivaled, add the will unmatched, and add the left hook which you can't see (review the Velazquez fight and you'll hardly see his punches now), and you get a MAB getting rushed to the hospital.

                      Intiendes amigos?

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