Can Barrera beat Manny in Rematch?

[psychopath]

manny will not beat JMM...JMM vs MAB..then MAB retires after a huge big fight that can go either way against JMM

Manny will not beat JMM . . . well how sure are you? Did Arum divulged to you his secret that the scorecards for the Pac/JMM rematch were already done? With Eric's loss I'm sure Arum will move Heavens and Earth to ensure JMM's victory for TOP RANKS to stay in the championship picture. yEAH JMM by U.D.! Don't you think Team Pac headed by Roach doesn't know what inside Arum's head? JMM won't get up from the canvas this time so there's no need for the ****I'N ****** judges.

Yeah JMM vs MAB . . .then MAB retires . . . keep on dreaming!

[Hurlex]

why do poeple look at the the first round of JMM/pac and say he will win...pac got schooled the rest of those rounds..this time JMM will take his time and knows what not to do..JMM will beat pac for sure if he comes in with his head clear...JMM has said he wants MAB after pac..and MAB would beat JMM..so whats so far fetch off that....Manny pacquiao even acted like a ***** getting out of his fight with st.clair(someone who had a great chance at beating him)

I mean even Morales would still beat pac..i dont know why some fans put pac as if he was invincible...he very beatable

[m00ks]

why do poeple look at the the first round of JMM/pac and say he will win...pac got schooled the rest of those rounds..this time JMM will take his time and knows what not to do..JMM will beat pac for sure if he comes in with his head clear...JMM has said he wants MAB after pac..and MAB would beat JMM..so whats so far fetch off that....Manny pacquiao even acted like a ***** getting out of his fight with st.clair(someone who had a great chance at beating him)

I mean even Morales would still beat pac..i dont know why some fans put pac as if he was invincible...he very beatable

Why can Pac beat JMM?

1) He can hurt JMM more than JMM can hurt Manny.

2) Pac was outboxed yes but have you ever truly studied round 9-10? Dya notice the difference in mobility? I feel that's when Pac ****** up the pain on his foot and showed that he CAN win rounds even without the straight bombs.

3) This time around, Pac has 2 fists. I'd laugh if JMM got knocked out with a right hook

Why the hate Hurlex. You're giving Manny ZERO credit. You're saying Pac was acting like a ***** getting out of St. Clair when the guy fought MAB, JMM demanding a rematch against teh latter hopefully leading to a fight with ERIK MORALES. So please, tell me again that he ran from St. Clair

[psychopath]

why do poeple look at the the first round of JMM/pac and say he will win...pac got schooled the rest of those rounds..this time JMM will take his time and knows what not to do..JMM will beat pac for sure if he comes in with his head clear...JMM has said he wants MAB after pac..and MAB would beat JMM..so whats so far fetch off that....Manny pacquiao even acted like a ***** getting out of his fight with st.clair(someone who had a great chance at beating him)

I mean even Morales would still beat pac..i dont know why some fans put pac as if he was invincible...he very beatable

Pac is not invincible . . .he is very beatable . . . of course there should be no arguement on that and so with MAB, JMM and Morales. Everybody is beatable because they are mere mortals. With the caliber of these fighters one mistake in that 12 rounds fight can change the result . . . so for you to say that Pac won't defeat JMM is an extra ordinary confidence. You already have a conclusion despite this thing being hypothetical, it's going to happen on February Bro. Is there something you know that we don't?

Us looking at the first round of that JMM/Pac fight and say he will win? No . . no . . no I'm not one of those. I've seen Pac start from the scratch and I know what he is made of, that's why I know what he is capable of doing.

JMM schooled Pac the rest of the fight? That's just your point of view Bro. because that's the way you wanted to picture it. Don't forget the fact that with or without Pac's injury that night he could have still won't without the "**** up" job of one off the judges for wrong scoring and the refs incompetence of not deducting a point from JMM after so many low blow warnings.
Common man let's be sensible here . . . don't let your dislike for Pac ruin your objectivity. The fact remains that despite Pac's in jury, JMM manage to only salvage a draw aided by a judge and the ref. That's well documented so nobody can dispute that.

A Pac/JMM fight is 50/50 . . .a PAC/MAB fight 50/50 . . . a PAC/Morales fight 50/50 . . . in fact I want it 60/40 in favor of his opponents because Pac performs best when he is an underdog.

[ELPacman]

Yeah you know, a lot of you that post on this forum need to use your brain alittle bit more, you all think 1 dimensional. You are basing Pacman on his last performance against Marquez. Your forgetting his dominance over the bantam-weights and Barrera. Your forgetting, focus and concentration overcomes the odds(Barrera v Morales III). Your forgetting, Manny infact did win more than just the 1st rd vs JMM. Thinking that he didn't just from being blinded by Marquez's abilitiy to come back from the knockdowns isn't calling yourself a true boxing analyzer.
My thoughts on the rematches between JMM and Barrera. Manny can win, NO DOUBT, it's all about his focus and concentration. He might have over prepared for Barrera since obviously Barrera wasn't himself. Though it was an amazing performance we won't see again unless Manny stays focused. If Roach can keep Manny's young mind together, he will be the dominate force in the featherweight division for years to come. He has the ability to learn and adapt in fights and doesn't take not controlling a fight easy.
In a JMM rematch, it will go like Manny will either go for a knockout this time for real, or swarm JMM until the end to get a decision. I highly doubt he's going to sit on Marquez again so Marquez can pick his counter shots left and right. The right hand will also 100% guranteed be in the fight. Roach has confirmed this already that they are working on it heavy. You also can't forget before Marquez fight, he's used it in all of his fights, so throw he's a 1 punch fighter out of the window already. Yes, his power is in the left, though that doesn't mean he's singlely 1 hand dominate on it besides vs Marquez.
If he fights Barrera again, the key factors here are that Barrera's stamina is really low, he is counter punching which means he don't throw as much unless he needs to and yet he was an empty tank in the final round vs Morales. Even showed tiredness in the 11th. Manny's has insane amount of stamina to be able to throw nonstop from beginning to end. Barrera will need to work on that. Barrera also needs new defense which I don't think he will be able to JUST change out of the blue. He is very vulnerable for the straight left and Manny seems to be getting stronger and stronger with that punch. Of course he won't just use that because like I said, he figured Barrera out to hell in the first fight. He may need some adjustments based on Barrera's performance vs Morales. Once those are in, it will be a repeat without a doubt of the first performance. Manny's fight pace and workrate is just too high for him to handle.
So in the end, can Manny win these rematches? Yes. Will he? It's all up to him and his focus and concentration. Only with Roach I can see this happening because when he's alone, forget it, Manny is a mindless immature boxer who doesn't keep his priorities straight.

[VPDJ]

Manny will KO Barrera again –Roach


By nick giongco


FREDDIE ROACH wants it done immediately. That is, a rematch between Manny Pacquiao and Marco Antonio Barrera. Now, Pacquiao versus Barrera II is the fight everyone wants to see.


While Barrera may have put on a show against Erik Morales, that doesn’t mean he will do the same thing when given the opportunity to lock horns anew with Pacquiao, said Roach.

"Manny will knock him out," Roach told the Bulletin yesterday after presiding over Pacquiao’s two-hour workout at the Almendras Gym in Davao in preparation for a tuneup fight with Fahsan 3K Battery of Thailand on Dec. 11 at The Fort in Taguig.

"Marco fought a very good fight against Morales. I believe he won the fight but it’s going to be different when he fights Manny. He can’t do that against Manny. Although he looked good out there, he remains the same though," the American trainer said.

Now that Barrera has succeeded in making noises by beating Morales, one of the best in the world pound for pound, Roach wants to know if it is feasible that a bout with Barrera be arranged instead of a rematch with another Mexican, Juan Manuel Marquez, on Feb. 26.

"This is what a lot of people want to see next. This is the bigger fight," said Roach, who arrived in the country from Los Angeles exactly a week ago.

"Then let Morales fight the winner of Pacquiao versus Barrera," he said.

Buboy Fernandez, a disciple of Roach, also doesn’t see Barrera avenging his 11th-round knockout defeat at the Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas.

"Ganun pa rin naman si Barrera," said Fernandez, who also dabbles as Pacquiao’s sidekick. "Pero maganda nga na paglabanin ulit sila dahil nga tinalo niya si Morales."

"Pero knockout pa rin siya kay Manny dahil hindi niya magagawa yung ginawa niya kay Morales sa katulad ni Manny."

Fernandez points out that Morales was not able to hurt Barrera badly enough to compel Barrera to think twice before boring inside.

"Hindi niya (Barrera) magawa yung basta na lang papasok kasi tatamaan siya ng masasakit na suntok na pakakawalan ni Manny," added Fernandez.

Meanwhile, Roach said "this week is going to be hard for Manny."

"By weekend, we are going to start to taper off. Manny will probably have his last sparring on Monday," Roach added.

Pacquiao, Roach and the rest of the gang are arriving in Manila late Thursday night, in time for a meeting with high-ranking officials of Smart Communications, which is financing the Dec. 11 show in partnership with Solar Sports.

[ispayder]

If you subtract the first round from the JMM - Pac fight it is a one-sided BEATING given to Pac by Marquez. I see a rematch the same as the first fight sans the first round. JMM dominates a second fight.

As for Barrera - Pac II, I have always claimed that Barrera would win a rematch. Barrera was going through some personal problems and didn't train appropriately. A rematch favors Barrera, IMHO.

If you subtract rounds 2 to 12, JMM was severely beaten...knocked down 3x etc...etc... if if if...maybe it would be better if we all take it as it is - DRAW! Then let's hope for a rematch. MP has spoken publicly that he is willing to fight both JMM and MAB. I'm sure you will agree with me that JMM/Pacman II and MAB/Pacman II will be both exiting.

[VPDJ]

I really have a 90% doubt that JMM could take Manny P. down. That is if Manny won't punch and can't take a punch. With all honesty and unbiased opinion, JMM is just so fortunate at that time coz Manny hurt his hand and foot after Rnd 1 (THIS IS A FACT!!!!! GET IT????). We will see on their rematch who will really kiss the canvass. And I think and with all respect to JMM fans, it will not be Pacquiao who will go down.

[fist-of-fury]

As far as I saw, it was the same MAB who fought Morales. He was just more aggressive and confident this time, the style and everything else is the same. But it was a different Morales who fought MAB. It simply was not Erik. Maybe it was the weight?

Anyway, in a MAB-Pacman rematch, the result would be the same. I really think Pacman is just too fast and powerful for MAB.

[JaNnO]

manny will not beat JMM...JMM vs MAB..then MAB retires after a huge big fight that can go either way against JMM

Why not, on the other way around, it was JMM who could only come up with a draw. Thanks to the mistake of that ****** judge...and who would wanna pay to see a boring fighter in JMM. The guy does not not even initiate a fight!