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  • #81
    Originally posted by Adamantium View Post
    Evander Holyfield? The same Holyfield who was already showing the side affects of HGH way back in 1993. Roy Jones, who tested positive after the Richard Hall fight? Its not just about boxers moving up, its about them moving up and being much stronger than their naturally bigger opponents. Just imagine if Jones stood in the ring with Tyson and Tyson said damn I can trade with this guy im going to get on my bike and try to last to the final bell instead. Which is why Mayweather sr said what he said. Pac should just accept the terms and all this will blow over.
    So how about Floyd, how come he was never subjected to this after moving up and dominating bigger boxers than him. My point is why now, the only reason is because Sr. made false accusations without merit and people are buying into it.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by deuce_drop View Post
      can someone convince me with proof as to why pacquiao should be forced to take these extra tests? (EDIT) if he wants this fight?

      what actual factual proof does anyone have?

      because what i'm seeing since this happened is someone being accused of something, as far as i know there is zero evidence, only speculation, which isnt enough to hold up in court, so why is pacquiao being treated like he's guilty and has to prove himself innocent because of accusations with no evidence?

      someone?
      SPECUALTION BY FLOYD SR OF ALL PEOPLE.....lol

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      • #83
        Originally posted by rommel357 View Post
        So how about Floyd, how come he was never subjected to this after moving up and dominating bigger boxers than him. My point is why now, the only reason is because Sr. made false accusations without merit and people are buying into it.
        Mayweather never stands and trades with his much bigger opponents, normally he tries to win by potshotting and countering, see the Castillo fights and the Baldomir fight.

        From what I heard rumours have been floating around about Pac for a while now, I heard somthing around 6 months ago. Mayweather sr is really the first guy to say it out in public. What Pac should do is take the tests and then ko Mayweather.

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        • #84
          My question is, why can't mayweather not agree to remove the clause which is testing a day before the fight? If for example Manny takes an illegal substance a day before the fight, would it really give Manny a clear edge like popeye taking a spinach kind of power?

          If Manny thinks he's not keen on taking a test before the fight because of phobia in needles, or he thinks that it could affect him during the fight. Although it is outrageous for a guy who's called as "smiling assassin" but he's still human and it would destroy his mental state before the fight then it would give undue advantage to Floyd.

          The fight is being called off by Arum but I think Manny wants this one, they're just probably making the issue calm down. That's what happens when you're getting popular especially if you're not an American and toppling every American boxer in terms of popularity and marketability in their own soil, I'm not going to go any further about the race stuff but it makes me wonder, what if Manny was a white or black American would this kind of issue be raised? hmmm...

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          • #85
            He must take these tests on the grounds that it will make the fight happen. He is the proclamed people's champ so he should do what it takes to make the fight the people want to see. The demands will not be of any physical detriment so it should not be this big of a deal.

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            • #86
              I know 40 million reasons to take this tests.

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              • #87
                Answer this, What's the problem in taking the blood test right after the fight? If Manny is taking anything illegal it would still show...What's the problem then? This is a 2 party talk and Manny deserves to make his own demands too(w/ or w/o good reason)...It's called a compromise..........Manny already agreed(just not 24 hours before the fight)...He's even willing to be tested right after the damn fight....

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by gqjohnb View Post
                  He must take these tests on the grounds that it will make the fight happen. He is the proclamed people's champ so he should do what it takes to make the fight the people want to see. The demands will not be of any physical detriment so it should not be this big of a deal.
                  Can you answer my question above your post?

                  Pacquiao agreed to take the test so long as it's not in the day before the fight. He even said he would take the blood test right after the fight in the dug out. Is Pacquiao taking a "popeye-spinach" kind of illegal substance that waves off in a minute or so? That the result of taking the test after the fight would be a lot different before the fight.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by imscythe View Post
                    Can you answer my question above your post?

                    Pacquiao agreed to take the test so long as it's not in the day before the fight. He even said he would take the blood test right after the fight in the dug out. Is Pacquiao taking a "popeye-spinach" kind of illegal substance that waves off in a minute or so? That the result of taking the test after the fight would be a lot different before the fight.
                    This is what I have been telling everyone but they can't seem to get it...A test after the fight will still show anything illegal that pac is taking....

                    Again I'm asking, what's the problem with this then?

                    ***Green K given***

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by imscythe View Post
                      My question is, why can't mayweather not agree to remove the clause which is testing a day before the fight? If for example Manny takes an illegal substance a day before the fight, would it really give Manny a clear edge like popeye taking a spinach kind of power?

                      If Manny thinks he's not keen on taking a test before the fight because of phobia in needles, or he thinks that it could affect him during the fight. Although it is outrageous for a guy who's called as "smiling assassin" but he's still human and it would destroy his mental state before the fight then it would give undue advantage to Floyd.

                      The fight is being called off by Arum but I think Manny wants this one, they're just probably making the issue calm down. That's what happens when you're getting popular especially if you're not an American and toppling every American boxer in terms of popularity and marketability in their own soil, I'm not going to go any further about the race stuff but it makes me wonder, what if Manny was a white or black American would this kind of issue be raised? hmmm...
                      Are you serious? the media would be foaming at the mouth if this was a black fighter. The media has been nothing but positive about manny so what are you talking about. Npt to mention I have yet to see an article outright imply that he's avoiding the test because he's dirty. Everyone of the articles have expressed his attemts to compromise.

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