Comments Thread For: Bob Arum Blasts The US Anti Doping Agency

[odogg8121]

You not understanding the point. Why should Floyd be in charge of when Manny is tested. Floyds the one who wants the fight. You don't pick a fight with somebody and then demand all this ****. If Floyd thinks he's on juice then why would he pick a fight with him.

i think ur on crack if u blev wat u jus typed lol...no i really do

[odogg8121]

That's for Pot not Juice. Stop pretending like you know some ****.

it was an anolgy guy lol o p e n ur m i n d...then maybe u will be able to c the horse **** Arum is puttin out smh at *******s if u guys were smart u wud start say ariza is the blame right now u do know he was involved wit the balco **** right...nope u didnt cuz u dont kno **** lol

[odogg8121]

Wrong again. It only shows that you really don't have any idea about the testing of atheletes under USADA and USOC. During the taking of samples, USADA is in charge of getting the samples together with the sports body that commissioned the required testings. The samples are tagged by the representative of the sports body that commissioned it without the knowledge of the USADA or it's certified laboratory. The samples are then handed over to the USADA representative. In principle, USADA and their representative have the sample and the tag number but don't know to whom it belongs to while the sports body who commissioned it doesn't also know which sample belongs to which athelete but they control which tag number belongs to which athlete. After the results are released from the laboratory, it is only then that the samples are determined together with the tag number to whose blood samples it is.

Bzzzzz wrong there is no middle man they use all thier own people smh keep tryin Pac fans yall cant spin this lol

[odogg8121]

blood vs. Urine? Usada clears up fuss over mayweather-pacquiao drug testing feud
by josh slagter | the grand rapids press
december 24, 2009, 11:55am

the notion of bad blood interfering with the negotiations between floyd mayweather and manny pacquiao's representatives wasn't far fetched. Neither camp gets along with the other.

But with tuesday's announcement from mayweather's camp that pacquiao has refused the olympic-style random drug testing, tensions have reached a new high.

The nevada state athletic commission uses urine tests before and after fights to check for steroids other and performance-enhancing drugs. A blood test is required to earn a one-year license to fight in nevada, too.

Mayweather's camp is demanding the u.s. Anti-doping agency conduct random blood tests during training. Pacqiuao's promoter, bob aurm, has said his fighter has agreed to be blood tested three times: In january, 30 days before the fight and then right after the fight.

Travis tygart, the ceo of usada, told kevin iole of yahoo! Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean.

"there is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," tygart said. "it doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.”

tygert also added the schedule arum is proposing won't work, because a fighter would have the advantage of knowing when he'd be tested.

“that kind of window is totally unacceptable,” tygart said. “it would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”

dr. Gary wadler, an internal medicine physician and chairman of the world anti-doping agency’s prohibited list and methods sub-committee, supported tygar's position.

“the fundamental principle is that the time and place of testing is in the domain of the governing body, not of the athlete,” wadler told yahoo! Sports. “it would lose all its validity if the athlete could pick and choose when he is going to be tested and for what he’s going to be tested for and how he’s going to be tested. They’re sophisticated enough now that if someone wanted to, you could play the calendar to your advantage."

and to arum's notion that pacquaio will feel "weakened" by getting his blood drawn close to the fight? Victor conte, the founder of bay-area laboratory cooperative (balco), said the tests would have no physical effect on either fighter.

“that amount would be less than one-half of one percent (of the total blood in the body),” conte told yahoo! Sports. “it’s not going to have any effect, the drawing of blood. Could it have some mental effect? That’s the only down side of that. It’s certainly not going to have any physical effect, giving blood before a fight.”

the implementation of drug testing remains the only sticking point on negotiations for a fight that could break all of boxing's revenue records.

Will either side blink in time for the fight to happen? It doesn't sound like mayweather adviser leonard ellerbe plans to back off on his demands.

"they're backed up against the wall. Either they're going to step up to the plate and do this, or my guy's not stepping up into the ring and fighting," ellerbe said on "the huge show" on wednesday. "if you have nothing to hide, why not subject yourself to this testing?"

e-mail josh slagter at jslagter@grpress.com and follow him on twitter at twitter.com/joshslagter

amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[badredg]

whats the differrence between NSAC and USADA?(of course the spelling)..
but is USADA involved in big time PRO boxing matches?..so keith kiezer's NSAC is a fake?why enter USADA.lets say pacman won vs may jr..whats next U.N.anti-drug org?

[GameBullDawg]

MANNY PACQUIAO TO SUE FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR
By G. Leon

Moments ago Bob Arum informed **********.com that pound for pound king Manny Pacquiao will be filing a lawsuit against Floyd Mayweather Jr, Floyd Mayweather Sr and Golden Boy Promotions CEO for libel and slander. There will be more to follow until then, REMEMBER WHERE YOU HEARD IT FIRST! 10:53 PM EST

[jetgeomcx]

Pacquiao lost the first Morales fight because of this

that is what manny believed in...his "superstition".
he dreamt of blood the nyt before that fyt.
his main reason why he dont want blood sampling close to the fyt!
but why is floydie adamant to take the blood a day before the fyt?!?!?

**** it, Arum should forget about Gayweather and start negotiating with the winner of the Mosley/Berto bout.

i hope so....
and manny undertake any test to prove he's clean!
this will surely discredit floyd and the maywithers the more.....

Manny's got a phobia of needles, but in the hatton-pacquiao 24/7 he's sat there calm as can be watching the doctor take the blood.

manny has no fear of needles!!!
you dont see manny and his tattoos...

ahhhh shutup u old asshola ,just because ur little money cow refuses to do random blood tests its the anti-doping organizations fault!!??? whatever noone is buying that crap except pacman fans of course.

get out of your own as*hole, brah....
read other news and comments.
you will find that a lot criticise floyd..not pacman!
just try to get out ok....

[jetgeomcx]

whats the differrence between NSAC and USADA?(of course the spelling)..
but is USADA involved in big time PRO boxing matches?..so keith kiezer's NSAC is a fake?why enter USADA.lets say pacman won vs may jr..whats next U.N.anti-drug org?

if manny concedes to this whole charade by the maywithers......
next is they will subject manny to NASA test....they think manny is extra-terrestial!! :*******:

[jetgeomcx]

What do you expect him to do, scream and start crying? If he doesn't show emotion when Cotto is unleashing huge left hooks to his head, why would he show emotion when being filmed close up during a blood test?

But regardless, nobody knows for sure if he does have a fear of needles. Pacquiao himself has not said that to any of the press.

i know for sure that manny is not fearful of any needle!!
simple proof is the tattoos he's got.

That's what I wanna know more about. Roach mentioned Mayweather employing a third party to take random samples, which would then be handled by the USADA. Doesn't something sound wrong with that to you?

third party??
under floyd's pay??
something is indeed fishy!!
i say there is "smoke" there.....

Mayweather should do the same.

"I'm came back to fight the best."

Later:

"I came back to steal some more money from boxing."

later still....
"but i suspect the best is on roid, on hgh"... fmj

[jetgeomcx]

You didn't read what Arum said. He said he wanted the agency that took the tests for the NBA, MLB and NFL to take the tests because they would AGREE to ONLY to take the tests when Arum and Pac wanted the tests taken, which was 30 days prior to the fight. They refuse to have the test taken within 30 days of the fight. The U.S. Anti Doping Agency would take random tests within that 30 day period.

The rules of the Anti Doping Agency do not say they WILL take seven random blood tests and 12 urine tests. It says the athlete may be SUBJECT to 7 blood tests and 12 urine tests prior to the event. I never heard of an Olympic athlete who had blood drawn within 24 hours of their final contest.

Under Arum's scenario, Pac could start using illegal substances right after the 30 day blood test and take them up to five days before the fight and the substances would be out of his system by the time the post-fight blood test is taken. Illegal performance enhancing substances will only stay in your system for a few days, just like most illegal drugs (with the exception of marijauana). That is why Floyd's camp is insisting on the random tests.

latest from team pacquiao is that manny agreed to the blood sampling 5 days prior to the fyt!!
the ball is in maywither's court...as always!