Who ALREADY KNEW about Pacquiao's "Needle Phobia" before these negotiations??..

[Liar]

you're right..and the first one hurts A LOT MORE than the 2nd..

Agreed. Needles don't even hurt. A punching bag such as Pacman shouldn't feel any pain

[ThePunchingBag]

you're right..and the first one hurts A LOT MORE than the 2nd..

Depends who you are.

Some people hate sharp short lived pain, but can take sustained dull pain and vice-versa.

[..WaRSpencE..]

Depends who you are.

Some people hate sharp short lived pain, but can take sustained dull pain and vice-versa.

Come on bro..this is a GROWN ASS MAN who takes punches to the face for a living..tattoos and needles should be the least of this mans fears in regards to pain..

let's be realistic here..Arum and Roach are tainting Pacquiao's legacy and makin **** look suspect..plain and simple.

[Pullcounter]

roach let the cat out of the bag a few interviews ago. I'm not gonna waste my time digging it up. team mayweather caught on and went to town on it.

[nj_evoixgsr]

so u think that pac shouldnt have to go threw random drug testing??even tho floyd will be to?? u think a teaspoon of blood is a well enuff reason to say the hell with the fight and random drug tests?? just curious

as i said in many other threads. i think he should go through with it. but should not be day before fight night when you can't even get the results or the results will not make a difference from day before and directly after the fight.

if a *** had questions about you and doing drugs would you comply with it right away like he owns you? i think they are doing it the way they are for pride. it sounds more of a we know we're not doing it we're ready to do the blood test. then they request for olympic style blood test and one specifically day before. how do you resolve or what's the negotiation stipulation for pac to reply? a certain time frame in which blood test should not be taken place. a week out. dude is not going to roid up in a week and flush his system out day of the fight.


please use brain cells. the results of a blood test to be thorough via google search would be a WEEK. urine test would be adequate through the week leading upto the fight done by independent agencies.


i mean people with any brain cells could conjure up a solution for this. if anything i am getting annoyed and their adding media attention to try to make this fight even bigger with all this nonsense trying to come out to the media for the public to start talking.

[Libido Sanchez]

but, pacq prides himself on being mentally tough! A mental midget is controlled by superstitions or ......

Being mentally tough inside the ring is different. He can at least try to control what's happening. If he's receiving damage, he can try to avoid punches and fight back. If he believes that taking blood from him close to the fight takes away his "energy" or "powers," then he believes that it's something that is out of his control.

But if it turns out Pac is on something, it wouldn't shock me the same way it didn't shock me that Tiger Woods has mistresses... even though he has a hot wife. I just don't believe Pac is on something without actual proof.

Pacquiao is a man of FAITH and it's no secret that he very much believes in GOD and prays a hell of alot according to him..Superstitions don't exist in the Christian religion..that's pagan and putting a supernatural power on something other than god..

So that excuse is bull**** too...

No offense, but all religions have rituals (superstitions), including Christianity. (Please don't take it the wrong way, I'm also a Catalina Taylor fan.) Do you really think that God would send somebody to hell because they believed in wearing a "lucky hat" or avoided flying on Friday the 13th?

IMO, it's pretty rare to find a person who isn't a priest or something like that, that bases every decision solely on their faith.

Come on bro..this is a GROWN ASS MAN who takes punches to the face for a living..tattoos and needles should be the least of this mans fears in regards to pain..

let's be realistic here..Arum and Roach are tainting Pacquiao's legacy and makin **** look suspect..plain and simple.

Again, I don't think it's about the pain of the needle. Of course it's nothing compared to getting hit by Miguel Cotto or getting tatted. It's about what I said already, IMO.

The Mayweathers are tainting Pacquiao's legacy. Manny is now caught in a **** storm where some people are demanding action. Just because people can make convincing arguments as to why Pac should get tested (and even it turns out later that they were right and he is on steroids), it doesn't make all this any less of a witch hunt. The accusations started based on speculation.

It's like if you lived next door to a school playground and every day parents saw you walk past and then one day one of them thinks you looked at their kid funny and starts telling the other parents he thinks you're a pedo. Then everybody is soon saying you're a child ******or and you get stepped to, but you refuse to answer their allegations. This then fuels their su****ions about you. (BTW, I'm not a pedo.)

[josenoway]

lol, it wasn't so long ago the Pac cumdrinkers were lighting up the board about how Manny got that tattoo of a comet or a rock or whatever the hell it was, and how that's what it was going to feel like when Floyd got hit by it.

Now all of a sudden, the little Flip is afraid of needles.

Great job painting yourself into a corner there.

lol.

[..WaRSpencE..]

Being mentally tough inside the ring is different. He can at least try to control what's happening. If he's receiving damage, he can try to avoid punches and fight back. If he believes that taking blood from him close to the fight takes away his "energy" or "powers," then he believes that it's something that is out of his control.

But if it turns out Pac is on something, it wouldn't shock me the same way it didn't shock me that Tiger Woods has mistresses... even though he has a hot wife. I just don't believe Pac is on something without actual proof.




No offense, but all religions have rituals (superstitions), including Christianity. (Please don't take it the wrong way, I'm also a Catalina Taylor fan.) Do you really think that God would send somebody to hell because they believed in wearing a "lucky hat" or avoided flying on Friday the 13th?

IMO, it's pretty rare to find a person who isn't a priest or something like that, that bases every decision solely on their faith.




Again, I don't think it's about the pain of the needle. Of course it's nothing compared to getting hit by Miguel Cotto or getting tatted. It's about what I said already, IMO.

The Mayweathers are tainting Pacquiao's legacy. Manny is now caught in a **** storm where some people are demanding action. Just because people can make convincing arguments as to why Pac should get tested (and even it turns out later that they were right and he is on steroids), it doesn't make all this any less of a witch hunt. The accusations started based on speculation.

It's like if you lived next door to a school playground and every day parents saw you walk past and then one day one of them thinks you looked at their kid funny and starts telling the other parents he thinks you're a pedo. Then everybody is soon saying you're a child ******or and you get stepped to, but you refuse to answer their allegations. This then fuels their su****ions about you. (BTW, I'm not a pedo.)

You guys are making this more of a mess that it should be..

Pacquiao..like his nuthuggers repeat SO MUCH..came from 106lbs and is now KNOCKING OUT 147lbers and handling their shots like love taps!..

at this stage..Pacquiao KNEW he would sooner or later have some hater start some rumors about performance enhancements and it would obviously be on his part to prove that he's all natural talent and worked extremely hard to get where he's at legitimately..

and to the ******er analogy.. you're not on the spotlight like Pacquiao...you could compare that to say....Michael Jackson...he had kids sleeping in the same bed as him and all...do I think he was a child ******er?..HELL YES!..no grown ass man has some strangers kids in the bed with them for fun..that's sick!

like I said previously...sometimes Perception is Reality until you prove otherwise..just the ways of the world..and I don't see the problem in Pacquaio clearing his name once and for all!.

[Libido Sanchez]

You guys are making this more of a mess that it should be..

Pacquiao..like his nuthuggers repeat SO MUCH..came from 106lbs and is now KNOCKING OUT 147lbers and handling their shots like love taps!..

at this stage..Pacquiao KNEW he would sooner or later have some hater start some rumors about performance enhancements and it would obviously be on his part to prove that he's all natural talent and worked extremely hard to get where he's at legitimately..

and to the ******er analogy.. you're not on the spotlight like Pacquiao...you could compare that to say....Michael Jackson...he had kids sleeping in the same bed as him and all...do I think he was a child ******er?..HELL YES!..no grown ass man has some strangers kids in the bed with them for fun..that's sick!

like I said previously...sometimes Perception is Reality until you prove otherwise..just the ways of the world..and I don't see the problem in Pacquaio clearing his name once and for all!.

Bro, I can see we're gonna have to respectfully disagree with each other, lol.

My point is Pacquiao shouldn't even be in this position. He shouldn't have to clear his name just because he's knocking out bigger dudes. Steroids or any other PEDs are not the only possible reason he is doing this. I know you've heard the argument that he's fighting nearer to his natural weight now. Plus, Pac has gotten better skill-wise as a fighter. Maybe that's the reason. Maybe it's not. But people are acting like it can only be PEDs.

My fault for bringing up ******ors. But with MJ, the kids accusing him (and I could be wrong, but at least one confessed later that he was lying because his parents told him to say that **** for money, if I remember right) actually were in his house. As far as I know Sr. has never been in a Team Pacquiao training camp. And just because somebody has the spotlight on them doesn't mean it's OK for anybody to say whatever they want about them.

"Perception is Reality" is not something I agree with personally. Imagine if you never watched boxing and you got into a fight with Pacquiao on the street. You might perceive he's this small guy you can kick the **** out of easy, but the reality would hit you back hard.

But, yes, I would now love it for Pacquiao to take the random tests and test negative. But you will still have some people on here talking about no test is 100% positive.

[..WaRSpencE..]

Bro, I can see we're gonna have to respectfully disagree with each other, lol.

My point is Pacquiao shouldn't even be in this position. He shouldn't have to clear his name just because he's knocking out bigger dudes. Steroids or any other PEDs are not the only possible reason he is doing this. I know you've heard the argument that he's fighting nearer to his natural weight now. Plus, Pac has gotten better skill-wise as a fighter. Maybe that's the reason. Maybe it's not. But people are acting like it can only be PEDs.

My fault for bringing up ******ors. But with MJ, the kids accusing him (and I could be wrong, but at least one confessed later that he was lying because his parents told him to say that **** for money, if I remember right) actually were in his house. As far as I know Sr. has never been in a Team Pacquiao training camp. And just because somebody has the spotlight on them doesn't mean it's OK for anybody to say whatever they want about them.

"Perception is Reality" is not something I agree with personally. Imagine if you never watched boxing and you got into a fight with Pacquiao on the street. You might perceive he's this small guy you can kick the **** out of easy, but the reality would hit you back hard.

But, yes, I would now love it for Pacquiao to take the random tests and test negative. But you will still have some people on here talking about no test is 100% positive.

I agree with your post 100% even in the agree to disagree..and I don't feel Pacquiao needs PED's, HGH, and other banned supp. to get where he is..but like I said..in anything in life where you reach the top..in a DRAMATIC fashion..you will get haters and doubters..that's the sad truth..because corruption is so wide-spread..you don't know who's legit anymore..

as for the street fight..well you're right..but Perception doesn't become the reality until the fact is proven..once Pacquiao lands..the perception is gone and the facts of reality have set in..just like it would by passing these drug tests..feel me?..