Emile Griffith GAY Boxer.

[Shaolin Bushido]

^are you gay?

No, just occasionally mature and mildly intelligent. Not beign a smart ass, just kidding but imagine if your kid or kid brother turned out to be gay ... would you hold it against him? I'd love my son or brother just the same and go down fighting against anyone who bothered them because of their sexual orientation. It's NOT catching.

What about if you realized that if you had a gay brother or relative that they probably would feel ashamed and hide it from you because of insensitive remarks you made before anyone even knew of their ****sexuality.

That's a ****ed up realization ... that you've offended, hurt and alienated someone you love because of an offhanded remark you made without thinking(whether you meant it or not).

[hectari]

^i have a gay cousin he cuts hair, but he is flamboyant and talks like a typical stereotypical gay, so I guess that is why people accept him. But Guys you do not think are guy who are manly and athletic can be gay, I believe being gay is a sickness because basic human nature is a man and woman to bear a child not a man an man its not normal, it goes against basic human nature but I do not hate gays at all.

[Shaolin Bushido]

^i have a gay cousin he cuts hair, but he is flamboyant and talks like a typical stereotypical gay, so I guess that is why people accept him. But Guys you do not think are guy who are manly and athletic can be gay, I believe being gay is a sickness because basic human nature is a man and woman to bear a child not a man an man its not normal, it goes against basic human nature but I do not hate gays at all.

I'll say this: My mom had 4 boys and she always ****in RAILED against ****sexuality and all that, I guess because she did'nt want no misunderstandings out of us. She definitely didnt'want a gay son. Having said that, Me, my brothers and most of my friends were typical guys growin up and always talked **** about "******s" and such. I, for one, never even considered that one of those guys I knew for years might be gay.

It's only been since I've matured a little that I realized that anyone who's known me might easily think I hated gays but I never really did; just spouted off negative rhetoric.

A couple years ago, my youngest brother who's smart as hell, I realized that he's always hung out with a totally different group of guys and since we've been adults ... well, I've never known him to have a girlfriend. He doesn't act feminine, never has but ....

I don't know for sure but it bothers me that I may have ruined my relationship with my own kid brother who I love because I'm an inconsiderate shallow bastard(or seem like one).

The numbers are there; I don't know em offhand but despite what you may think, 1 out of 6 I believe are ****sexual. Just something to think about.

[hectari]

1 out of 6 is kinda steep but you may be right! I saw a special on tv saying alot of black women are contracting the aids virus thru a spouse, and this lady said her husband was sleeping with other men he had sex with both men and women, he was bi sexual but later he turned gay, kinda scary and his wife was hot.

[joe kurtz]

So what if Emile is gay?
What difference does in make?

I've had the opportunity to meet & spend time with Griffith many, many times over the past 20 years & he's a terrific human being. One of the nicest, most gracious men you could ever hope to meet in or outside of boxing.
And, he was an all time great fighter. A six time, three weight class world champion.

Those are the important things.
His sexuality? That's his business.
I can honestly say that in the countless hours that I've spent around him at various fightcards around the country & at the annual HOF weekend in Canastota, the subject's never come up. Not because I ever felt that it was some sort of taboo subject matter, it's just never been something that's come up in conversation. I mean, he's never asked me about MY sex life, so why would I inquire about his?

[SacTown1]

I wonder if any of Griffith's knockout-victims cared if he was gay while they were in the hospital with head trauma

WHO CARES!!!!???!!!!

[hectari]

I wonder if any of Griffith's knockout-victims cared if he was gay while they were in the hospital with head trauma

WHO CARES!!!!???!!!!

Imagine if he openly admitted he was GAY and then the guys he knocked out having to be knocked out by a GAY how do you think there ego would feel?

[vB Martin]

Imagine if he openly admitted he was GAY and then the guys he knocked out having to be knocked out by a GAY how do you think there ego would feel?

It sounds to me like you've been brainwashed by all the Bush bull****, or you're 13, or you're just ignorant.

First, men can be both manly AND gay.

Second, it's not a "sickness". The Bible-thumping Bush Nuthuggers will tell that it's unnatural, yet ****sexuality occurs quite often in the wild, amongst a wide variety of mammals.

Third, only an ignorant idiot (read: redneck) would give a **** about being KO'd by a ****sexual who was a 6 time World Champion. Honestly, if the guy were just an average boxer, it still shouldn't make a ****.

Did you ever stop and think (dumb question, I know) that with all his preaching about "Love thy neighbor as thyself" and "let he who is without sin...", etc, etc, etc, Jeebus was trying to tell you to not judge people, that that falls under the purview of his father? That perhaps gay people were put here to test and see if you just say you believe in Jeebus or actually live by his words, and that you're failing miserably and damning your soul to eternal hellfire and damnation?

If you believe that being gay is a choice, you're even more ignorant than I give you credit for. What person would choose to live a life ostracized by ignorant idiots (read: the majority of society), be ridiculed, not be afforded the same right to be happy as everyone else?

Gay marriage ruins the sanctity of marriage? How the **** can you ruin the sanctity of an outdated institution with a 60%+ divorce rate?

How would you feel for your cousin if he found a man, spent the rest of his life with him in a loving relationship, and was denied the right to see him a in Critical Care Unit before death simply because the Christian Fundamentalists (who worship Jesus, Inc., not Jesus Christ) have hijacked the government? Not quite fair is it?

Love, regardless of the form it takes, is something so rare that it should always be admired.

[Shaolin Bushido]

Imagine if he openly admitted he was GAY and then the guys he knocked out having to be knocked out by a GAY how do you think there ego would feel?

Hectari, the point is that gay guys have always been in boxing; the sad thing is that they have felt they must hide it or risk being ridiculed or worse.

They been knocking out heteros and ****s alike and vice versa. ****sexuality has always been around and always will. I bet there are medal of honor winners who are ****sexual ... Presidents, even.

They are everywhere; believe it or not being left-handed was a stigma at one time. You see how ridiculous that is, right? At one time people wouldn't eat tomatoes because they thought they were poisonous.

[SacTown1]

This thread sux, Johnny Louise and Croney Stone would be very offended by it