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  • Originally posted by arraamis View Post
    I've been reading some of these posts and I am in awe of the one-sided blindness displayed.

    Let me get this straight.

    - Floyd has to pay 10 million for every lb. he's over 147lbs.
    - Pac-Man doesn't
    - Both Floyd & Pac has to be tested pre & Post fight - But Pac-man and his team has issues with it and don't want to comply.

    But Floyd is the one trying to get out of the fight???????????

    It would seem that Team Pac-Man has something to hide, if they cannot comply with a little urine\blood testing pre and post fight - To make certain that no body is juicing. I'm not saying that Pac is juicing - But if they are not willing to prove it, something must be happening.

    What is wrong with tests pre and post fight??????

    This is ******!!!!!

    The Roach can make every kind of demand to get the edge in fights - But when someone tries to make sure that the fight is fair ...... He and his team mates have problems\issues.

    WTF is this ****????????
    Well, you may be just as guilty.

    The best thing an athlete can do is to get into the opponents head and muck with him/her/them.

    With any sport, one's mental composure become paramount the higher up the ladder you go. What we have here are two professionals in their game. They are just as professional because they can get to such high mental levels and execute under typically high stresses. Add a kink to their mental armor and they are no longer at 100%.

    This fight is being held to higher than usual standards by the mayweather group with no basis for their requests.

    If you follow the rules and repeatedly come out clean only to suddenly be under accusation by demands, then your mental game is afoul. And make no mistake, this is a demand on the part of the Mayweather crew, with an attempt to put Team Pacquiao mentally at risk.

    And let's not say that all is kosher because mayweather will be doing the tests random all throughout as well. The big difference is that his camp initiated this. They pointed the finger, so it's no sweat off of them to comply. The mental burden lays with Pacquiao and his team to prove themselves clean.

    The 10million penalty for a breach of contractual weight limit is exaggerated, but not unwarranted considering Mayweather broke contract in his last fight. ON the contrary, there is nothing proven to warrant such stringent (out of the ordinary) testing for illegal substances with either fighter.

    From a monetary standpoint, it would seem like a silly move on Pacquiao's part to back out. Maybe yes, maybe no, we'll see in a few day how this irons out.

    From a competitive standpoint, it's a smart move to not concede to Mayweather's unwarranted requests. A mentally incomplete fighter is an inefficient one.

    It's funny, it's claimed that the reason for such out of the ordinary testing it to maintain the integrity of this competition, yet it seems to be compromising it.

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    • Originally posted by ME2 View Post
      i didnt want to believe it, but it may be true he might be on the juice, the biggest fight of your life and you refuse to take a simple blood test, the richest fight of your life and you dont want to take blood test cause of superstition...

      all the demands made in your other fights and you cant a handle a demand of a blood test in the biggest fight of your life...Until i hear a logical explanation then he's on the juice

      and plz dont tell me floyd cause wants out of fight, because the random olympic blood test was known for weeks with bob arum saying the fight is almost finailized in the midst, Now its a big Deal??? that doesnt even out and if it does plz explain im open to hear it
      Fine, read my post above.

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      • I don't even see how Manny could have all these blood tests. Considering that he trains at home now, is the Nevada commission going to send a medical team there to perform the tests? Or are they expecting him to be in Nevada. If they do go there, will they have the facilities to properly perform their doping tests?

        Would the Nevada Commission and Floyd's team trust a medical team from the Philippines to perform the test for them? See how this bull**** can open a giant can of worms? It is simply not realistic and is only there to interfere with Manny's training.

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        • Originally posted by deanrw View Post
          I don't even see how Manny could have all these blood tests. Considering that he trains at home now, is the Nevada commission going to send a medical team there to perform the tests? Or are they expecting him to be in Nevada. If they do go there, will they have the facilities to properly perform their doping tests?

          Would the Nevada Commission and Floyd's team trust a medical team from the Philippines to perform the test for them? See how this bull**** can open a giant can of worms? It is simply not realistic and is only there to interfere with Manny's training.
          Interesting angle I had not even considered. I could hear it now...complaints due to "over the seas" olympic drug testing that is inferior because it's done in the phillipines.

          Although it sounds off, we've obviously heard it all on these boards!!

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          • Originally posted by ny123 View Post
            just take the ****ing test a little amount of blood taken 3 or 4 times before the fight is nothing unless you have something to hide. if this superfight is held up cuz pac is scared to draw a little blood before the fight then that is pac and his teams fault not mayweathers
            Sorry dude but Mayweather is way in over his head on this one. Nobody should have to go through these difficulties, especially for a welterweight fight. This stick the needle scenario is worst than a diabetic for crying out loud. I am with Pacquiao camp on this one. Why all of sudden for the first time in boxing history we need over 20 blood draws and specimens combine. So Pac has to become an "anemic" for Floyd the runner. If I was Pac I would just walk away and say "I told yall so."
            Last edited by bigtexask9; 12-23-2009, 02:19 AM.

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            • Originally posted by 817boy View Post
              so the fight is off???


              damn it floyd, you just have to have every freaking advantage.


              why dont pac just agree and say mayweather has to do the exact same drug test on the same day as pac.

              I hope you don't believe the bull**** coming out of Arum's mouth, but I am sure you do since it is all negative towards Floyd. Arum is the man who once said, "I was lying yesterday. Today, I am telling the truth." He has about as much credibility as Freddie Roach.

              He said the same types of hateful things about Mayweather after Mayweather dropped him as his promoter. A couple of years later, he was begging Mayweather to fight Cotto (whom he wouldn't put in the ring with Mayweather when he had him at 140) and Margarito. I guarantee you by Christmas, Arum's story will have changed and the fight will be on again.

              By the way, who do you think had all the advantages in the fight between Pac and Cotto?

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              • Originally posted by 1nonlymre View Post
                Well, you may be just as guilty.

                The best thing an athlete can do is to get into the opponents head and muck with him/her/them.

                With any sport, one's mental composure become paramount the higher up the ladder you go. What we have here are two professionals in their game. They are just as professional because they can get to such high mental levels and execute under typically high stresses. Add a kink to their mental armor and they are no longer at 100%.

                This fight is being held to higher than usual standards by the mayweather group with no basis for their requests.

                If you follow the rules and repeatedly come out clean only to suddenly be under accusation by demands, then your mental game is afoul. And make no mistake, this is a demand on the part of the Mayweather crew, with an attempt to put Team Pacquiao mentally at risk.

                And let's not say that all is kosher because mayweather will be doing the tests random all throughout as well. The big difference is that his camp initiated this. They pointed the finger, so it's no sweat off of them to comply. The mental burden lays with Pacquiao and his team to prove themselves clean.

                The 10million penalty for a breach of contractual weight limit is exaggerated, but not unwarranted considering Mayweather broke contract in his last fight. ON the contrary, there is nothing proven to warrant such stringent (out of the ordinary) testing for illegal substances with either fighter.

                From a monetary standpoint, it would seem like a silly move on Pacquiao's part to back out. Maybe yes, maybe no, we'll see in a few day how this irons out.

                From a competitive standpoint, it's a smart move to not concede to Mayweather's unwarranted requests. A mentally incomplete fighter is an inefficient one.

                It's funny, it's claimed that the reason for such out of the ordinary testing it to maintain the integrity of this competition, yet it seems to be compromising it.

                Thank you for that, Finally somebody with some sense.....That makes total sense!!!! good looking out best post by far!!!

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                • Originally posted by bigtexask9 View Post
                  Sorry dude but Mayweather is way in over his head on this one. Nobody should have to go through these difficulties, especially for a welterweight fight. This stick the needle scenario is worst than a diabetic for crying out loud. I am with Pacquiao camp on this one. Why all of sudden for the first time in boxing history we need over 20 blood draws and specimens. So Pac has to become an "anemic" for Floyd the runner. If I was Pac I would just walk away and say "I told yall so."
                  Olympic swimmers, boxers, wrestlers, track and field stars all go through it and they have no problems with it. I guess Pacquaio is too fragile to endure the same type of tests.

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                  • Originally posted by 817boy View Post
                    so the fight is off???


                    damn it floyd, you just have to have every freaking advantage.


                    why dont pac just agree and say mayweather has to do the exact same drug test on the same day as pac.
                    Are you delusional? Floyd has agreed to all of Pac's demands so far.

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                    • Hahahaha

                      The deal is off. Death to Mayweather and all black hahahah.

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