Mayweather-Pacquiao in Jeopardy Over Drug Test - Merged Thread:

[skullduggery]

su****ious.... has manny been juicing? lol wow... i hope not... that would really suck

[Access_Denied]

I'm not a bigg ass Pac fan but "innocent till proven guilty" this is all hype, this fight will be built with a ****load of hype for the next III months were going to suffer, next it's going to be Floyd opposing to something. Let's face it after this fight is done RIP boxing...

[dom329]

He's asking manny to do something that no other fighters have to do, that's why. It's a mental thing imo. Like Pacquiao is giving in to Floyd's outrageous demands. That's how I see it. That's why I would ask for something in return, to even out the mental games.

So manny asking fighters to drain themselves to fight him and also *****g in rehydration clauses is all good but taking a little blood is a big deal and this is something that both fighters have to do. So don't play the double standards when manny does things like this too in his contracts with fighters.

[Dondi33O]

Wouldnt Immediately after the fight be sufficient?? Anyone know?

Like I said many times, Fighters have trained with steroids then stop sometime before the fight to clean their system. When they are tested directly before and after the fight, they are clean.

[nelsoncm]

If Floyd's camp refuses Pac's offer to undergo tests after the fight, this goes to show someone's afraid of somebody. If this was another "LIVE" opponent not named Manny Pacquiao, Floyd would still be making the same demands.

Talk about "this will be over in three".

[COACH WEBB]

Mayweathers are shook and don't want none of the Pacman simple and plain.

Lol... Thats all you can muster up after the information in this thread???

Wow, you dudes are something else.

True story.

[incredible]

LOS ANGELES, CA (December 22, 2009) . . . The mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is now in jeopardy after Golden Boy Promotions, on behalf of Mayweather Promotions, learned today that Manny Pacquiao is refusing to comply with Olympic style drug testing as outlined and mandated by the United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) and as requested by Mayweather's management to ensure fair play and sportsmanship by both fighters.

Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter's superstition of testing so close to a fight.

Schaefer commented, "Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn't want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight."

Olympic style drug testing involves random sampling of the athlete's blood and urine prior to and after the fight. The USADA procedure includes both blood and urine sampling so that all banned substances, some of which do not show up in urine alone, are tested for thoroughly.

"It is unfortunate to hear this from Manny Pacquiao's representatives, particularly since, as of today, both parties had worked out all other issues related to this fight," said Schaefer. "Team Mayweather is certainly surprised that an elite athlete like Manny Pacquiao would refuse drug testing procedures which Floyd has already agreed to and have been agreed to by many other top athletes such as Lance Armstrong, and Olympians Michael Phelps, LeBron James and Kobe Bryant."

Mayweather, who was informed of Pacquiao's reluctance shortly after Schaefer received word of the impasse, feels Pacquiao has to explain himself immediately or be faced with accusations from the media and the public regarding his own status as a clean and drug free athlete.

"I understand Pacquiao not liking having his blood taken, because frankly I don't know anyone who really does," said Mayweather. "But in a fight of this magnitude, I think it is our responsibility to subject ourselves to sportsmanship at the highest level. I have already agreed to the testing and it is a shame that he is not willing to do the same. It leaves me with great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night. I hope that this is either some miscommunication or that Manny will change his mind and step up and allow these tests, which were good enough for all these other great athletes, to be performed by USADA."

Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions said, "We hope that Manny will do the right thing and agree to the testing as it is an egregious act to deny the testing and hence, deny the millions of fans the right to see this amazing fight. We just want to make sure there is a level playing field in a sport that is a man-to-man contest that relies on strength and ability. I still hope this decision is coming from someone in Pacquiao's camp and not Manny himself as it would be a shame that an athlete of his stature and who represents his whole country would not be able to show the public or his fellow athletes that he agrees to the highest standards in sports competition."

I can understand why Pacquiao wouldn't want to take this random drug test because it's a slap in his face! Mayweather Sr. made a comment about it, and now with Jr. demending it in the contract...is pretty much saying I think your dirty and this is why I want test's done. I'd hate to see this fight called off because of some drug test bull****, but at the same time it's slap in the face to Manny. Hopefully he'll put things aside and take the test's...prove them wrong...and get on with the fight.

[iloveboxing2]

I am sure He will do it.....

But if he is willing to do it after the fight, should it really matter?

[Bad~JuJu]

Someone mentioned that in cycling they probably don't test you right before a race, they actually test at random all throughout the two week or more time period in which the race takes place. Also in sports you generally open yourself up more and more to testing when you start looking dominant i.e. Lance Armstrong in his prime. Cycling is a perfect example of a sport where there is mass anti doping testing implemented but it's still a game of catch up as the the drugs are always one step ahead of the tests, most tests are simply looking to expose irregularities and don't seek out specific things. You often don't know what you're testing for, there are always new drugs coming out and new ways to get around testing. On a funny sidenote here in Cali we have a race called Tour of California in which the main sponsor is Amgen, a company that produces EPO which happens to be the drug of choice for many cyclists. Anyway , I think the fight will happen and this is all part of the negotiation, head games.

[AKATheMack]

I would agree with him if the testing were right before the fight, even 3 days before the fight... hell even a week before the fight.

But:

Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout

30 days? There is a difference between not wanting to take a blood test a couple days before a fight for fear of weakning yourself, and not wanting to take a blood test an entire month before the fight for that reason.

Good answer and a good point, but should he have to agree to uncommon practices at all prior to the fight? I think it would be very shady of Mayweather to cancel a fight based on Pac not agreeing to non-mandatory blood test.