Historical Middleweight Tournament

[dans]

Carlos monzon

Monzon would be a very live underdog in this tourney.

[andrewcuff]

See original post update!

[Rabbit ♠]

Should have specified the stages:

Stage 1:
Hagler vs Hopkins
McCallum vs Jones
Toney vs Monzon

Assume these fighters are all in their prime, with no weight issues etc.

Stage 2:
Monzon vs Jones
McCallum vs Hopkins
Toney vs Hagler

Stage 3:
Hagler vs Monzon
McCallum vs Hopkins
Jones vs Toney

You should copy and paste this and edit the opening post bro

[boxerca]

Should have specified the stages:

Stage 1:
Hagler vs Hopkins
McCallum vs Jones
Toney vs Monzon

Assume these fighters are all in their prime, with no weight issues etc.

Stage 2:
Monzon vs Jones
McCallum vs Hopkins
Toney vs Hagler

Stage 3:
Hagler vs Monzon
McCallum vs Hopkins
Jones vs Toney

In stages 2 and 3, McCallum and Hopkins fight twice. Correct that and I'm on my way to giving a complete analysis.

[aether]

Hagler takes it....

[andrewcuff]

In stages 2 and 3, McCallum and Hopkins fight twice. Correct that and I'm on my way to giving a complete analysis.

Good spot, apologies!

I will edit the OP now.

[andrewcuff]

Updated.

[boxerca]

Stage 1:

Hagler vs Hopkins
They're both too tough and have too great chins to be knocked out. I see Hagler winning via decision.

McCallum vs Jones
Jones via decision. If he couldn't knock McCallum out at the end of his career, he isn't going to in his prime.

Toney vs Monzon
Close fight but I think Monzon would start out slow and progress to handle Toney a decision loss.

Stage 2:

Monzon vs Jones
Jones just be too quick and too fast for Monzon. Wouldn't have enough power to knock him out, though. Jones via close decision.

McCallum vs Hopkins
I'd take Hopkins via decision, in a close fight.

Toney vs Hagler
Close one but I'd pick Hagler via decision. Toney was great but Hagler would take the upper hand in a rough fight.

Stage 3:

Hagler vs Jones
As great as Jones was at middleweight, I see Hagler winning a very close fight, at this part of the tournement.

McCallum vs Monzon
Very interesting fight. I think I'd have to choose Monzon via a razor close decision.

Hopkins vs Toney
Hopkins would have a lot of trouble against Toney but I think he'd manage to pull out a decision.

Scorecards at the end of the first round

Hagler - 6 points
Jones - 4 points
Hopkins - 4 points
Monzon - 2 points
McCallum - 0 points
Toney - 0 points

Semi-Finals

Hagler vs Monzon
This would be a truly great fight. I wish it happened but Hagler rose to fame too late. I see it being a very close fight with Hagler being able to pull out a victory. It would be a rough, for sure.

Jones vs Hopkins
The fight already happened early in their careers. Some say it was a green Hopkins but, even so, I think the outcome would be the same with any version of a middleweight Hopkins. Jones wins via decision.

Finals

Hagler vs Jones
A rematch of their fight in the first round of the tournament. This time, I think Jones would be able to get the victory, in another close fight.

The one thing I learned about a prime Jones was that he was able to adapt to the situation. Just look at how he adapted in the first Tarver fight and the rematch against Montell Griffin.

Jones via decision.

Champion and winner: Roy Jones

Good idea, BTW! You should post this in the history section, as well. I'm sure they'd get a kick out of it.

[djtmal]

hagler was just too complete of a killing machine in his prime...including roy....

[andrewcuff]

Stage 1:

Hagler vs Hopkins
They're both too tough and have too great chins to be knocked out. I see Hagler winning via decision.

McCallum vs Jones
Jones via decision. If he couldn't knock McCallum out at the end of his career, he isn't going to in his prime.

Toney vs Monzon
Close fight but I think Monzon would start out slow and progress to handle Toney a decision loss.

Stage 2:

Monzon vs Jones
Jones just be too quick and too fast for Monzon. Wouldn't have enough power to knock him out, though. Jones via close decision.

McCallum vs Hopkins
I'd take Hopkins via decision, in a close fight.

Toney vs Hagler
Close one but I'd pick Hagler via decision. Toney was great but Hagler would take the upper hand in a rough fight.

Stage 3:

Hagler vs Jones
As great as Jones was at middleweight, I see Hagler winning a very close fight, at this part of the tournement.

McCallum vs Monzon
Very interesting fight. I think I'd have to choose Monzon via a razor close decision.

Hopkins vs Toney
Hopkins would have a lot of trouble against Toney but I think he'd manage to pull out a decision.

Scorecards at the end of the first round

Hagler - 6 points
Jones - 4 points
Hopkins - 4 points
Monzon - 2 points
McCallum - 0 points
Toney - 0 points

Semi-Finals

Hagler vs Monzon
This would be a truly great fight. I wish it happened but Hagler rose to fame too late. I see it being a very close fight with Hagler being able to pull out a victory. It would be a rough, for sure.

Jones vs Hopkins
The fight already happened early in their careers. Some say it was a green Hopkins but, even so, I think the outcome would be the same with any version of a middleweight Hopkins. Jones wins via decision.

Finals

Hagler vs Jones
A rematch of their fight in the first round of the tournament. This time, I think Jones would be able to get the victory, in another close fight.

The one thing I learned about a prime Jones was that he was able to adapt to the situation. Just look at how he adapted in the first Tarver fight and the rematch against Montell Griffin.

Jones via decision.

Champion and winner: Roy Jones

Good idea, BTW! You should post this in the history section, as well. I'm sure they'd get a kick out of it.

Excellent thread! Good analysis!

I'm not sure I could agree with Toney and McCallum losing all of their bouts, but with the competition this good, it would near impossible to call all of the bouts!!

The fighters are all so damn tough it's hard to see any KOs.

What a tournament it would be.