Floyd mayweather sr.: "i definitely want pacquiao to give blood!"

[Calilloyd]

speculate all you want. as long as there is no evidence, id give manny his props.

manny isn't on anything illegal. id bet my left nut on it. all evidence points to manny being clean.

the way people dig up on this thing, im surprised no one found anything note worthy yet. if he was cheating, we would have mountains of evidence right now.

as of now, all we have is speculations based on basically nothing.

You act like you're afraid of something. If the speculation is based on nothing then there should be no problem with testing right? And professional boxing doesn't test for all PHD. Their test are pretty basic and actually primitive when it comes to steroids. That's why they want Olympic style drug testing and blood. Like I said before, I give Manny the benefit of the doubt NOW. But if he doesn't go through with the testing I won't. Either Roach is the worst PR person in the world or he's hiding something.

[rommel357]

a little blood "sample" ain't gonna affect ****....wtf are you talking about?

they're not going to sit in one of those trucks, and take blood from the man as if he's donating it......

besides, it's BOTH fighters doing so, not just pacquiao.





another lame excuse.

There's a big difference between aftecting someone "Mentally and/or Physically". And how do you know that it won't or it will. You can't honestly tell me that you know for sure 100% that it will affect him or not. And you can't say that about everybody either.

[rommel357]

not necessarily to "clear his name," but follow through with what has been agreed upon. twist it any way you want, but refusing to do the tests will only add to the su****ion, and give detractors more ammunition. as has been stated many times, if you have nothing to hide, why not take the tests?

Because he doesn't have to take the Olympic test in the first place. Manny could've easily said the standard testing is just fine, take it or leave it. And he did agree and he is following through on what they have agreed upon in terms of the Olympic testing. This blood test before the fight is something new and completely seperate and different from what they have initially agreed on. And they have agreed on the blood testing after the fight, not before, and there shouldn't be any difference.

[Calilloyd]

There's a big difference between aftecting someone "Mentally and/or Physically". And how do you know that it won't or it will. You can't honestly tell me that you know for sure 100% that it will affect him or not. And you can't say that about everybody either.

You can't possibly believe that a professional boxer as mentally strong as Manny Pacquiao would be mentally affected by giving a blood sample. If you do believe that then you believe anything Roach says which I suspect anyway. If Pacquiao is that fragile mentally then he's in trouble for this fight because that's nothing compared to what he's facing mentally with Mayweather.

[rommel357]

You can't possibly believe that a professional boxer as mentally strong as Manny Pacquiao would be mentally affected by giving a blood sample. If you do believe that then you believe anything Roach says which I suspect anyway. If Pacquiao is that fragile mentally then he's in trouble for This fight because that's nothing compared to what he's facing mentally with Mayweather.

Why not? You would speculating and taking something out of context and completely manupilating it IF you truly believe that something is very su****ious base on Mayweather Sr's accusations and/or Roach's comment.

[FLY TY]

There's a big difference between aftecting someone "Mentally and/or Physically". And how do you know that it won't or it will. You can't honestly tell me that you know for sure 100% that it will affect him or not. And you can't say that about everybody either.

i know there's a difference between mental and physical effects....

my point is that the small sample they're taking won't be enough to affect somebody "physically," as the other poster had stated.

and how will it affect pac mentally, if he's clean? i've still yet to get a good answer for that question.

Because he doesn't have to take the Olympic test in the first place. Manny could've easily said the standard testing is just fine, take it or leave it. And he did agree and he is following through on what they have agreed upon in terms of the Olympic testing. This blood test before the fight is something new and completely seperate and different from what they have initially agreed on. And they have agreed on the blood testing after the fight, not before, and there shouldn't be any difference.

i don't think there were specific "dates." i think what was agreed upon is that the fighters would be tested "throughout" their training camps.

roach is one trying to change things by putting time limits in place. he said he doesn't want pacquiao tested within 6 weeks of the fight, b/c it will affect him MENTALLY, not physically.

how?????

[rommel357]

You act like you're afraid of something. If the speculation is based on nothing then there should be no problem with testing right? And professional boxing doesn't test for all PHD. Their test are pretty basic and actually primitive when it comes to steroids. That's why they want Olympic style drug testing and blood. Like I said before, I give Manny the benefit of the doubt NOW. But if he doesn't go through with the testing I won't. Either Roach is the worst PR person in the world or he's hiding something.

Actually, if the speculations and accusations are based on nothing, then there shouldn't be any other testing at all other than the standard testing. All of this is based on Mayweather Sr's accusations, nothing more. Both parties are doing the Olympic testing they've agreed upon, it's the blood testing before the fight instead of after the fight that is in question.

[HaglerSteelChin]

I haven't read this entire thread so if i repeat something than excuse me. It would make no sense to check for blood the day before the fight if they worried about beating random tests, it makes sense a FEW weeks before the fight and a day after the fight. If something is the blood one day before the fight than it will likely not clear the day after.

I think a few weeks before the fight is to prevent cycling off drugs if either fighter is cheating. I would agree that taking blood a day before is unnecessary.

[rommel357]

i know there's a difference between mental and physical effects....

my point is that the small sample they're taking won't be enough to affect somebody "physically," as the other poster had stated.

and how will it affect pac mentally, if he's clean? i've still yet to get a good answer for that question.



i don't think there were specific "dates." i think what was agreed upon is that the fighters would be tested "throughout" their training camps.

roach is one trying to change things by putting time limits in place. he said he doesn't want pacquiao tested within 6 weeks of the fight, b/c it will affect him MENTALLY, not physically.

how?????

How do you know it won't affect him mentally regardless if he is clean or not. How do you know this for sure. Roach is the closest to Manny, personally and professionally, he would know what's best for him and what affects him. And again, what's wrong with taking the blood test after the fight.

[FLY TY]

How do you know it won't affect him mentally regardless if he is clean or not. How do you know this for sure. Roach is the closest to Manny, personally and professionally, he would know what's best for him and what affects him.

or he could be trying to hide something.....which is the point of taking the damn tests.

quit making excuses....like i said, if he's clean, how the hell is giving blood going to affect him mentally?????



somebody PLEASE give me a straight answer.....