Floyd mayweather sr.: "i definitely want pacquiao to give blood!"

[Dondi33O]

killakali is a punk. I got 2 infractions for insulting Lady Fan *******. Aww, his wittle Pinay pwincess.

Pac fans give the most Red K and infractions in all of Boxingscene.
They feel its proving point.

[whoelsebutjames]

Hatton,Cotto,Oscar never asked for olympic drug style testing but the mayweathers are?
They're scared.

Why would anyone before ask for one
they didnt really have much to go by
Cotto was the really the first flag raiser cause the others seemed more probable

Oscar weight issues never really landed anything of meaning.. Hatton in/out of shape issues plus there fight was two rounds
add the fact that pac is really good and its probable

then you take cotto who never been dominated by a small fry before and then people start asking questions

He probably is clean. But i think for a million dollar fight IN PROFESSIONAL BOXING (NOT PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING WHERE WE LOOK THE OTHER WAY) a blood test is a very reasonable demand..

[Left Hook Tua]

yea I just read what you have above in the boxingscene article. I asked Tua where he Roach said that at...waiting for a link from him.

roach said he wants no more testing once they get to the time period of 6 WEEKS BEFORE THE FIGHT.

no link. ppl make up what they want, and quote w/e supports their views. i don't think tua would do it intentionally, but others do.

that was the article i read.

you know i don't make stuff up. if i'm wrong i'm just wrong.

which article did roach say 6 weeks before? never saw that one. that seems odd.

[Calilloyd]

[QUOTE=COACH WEBB;7042077]why are you typing in all caps? That is usually a sign that you are yelling. Calm down.

[FLY TY]

Hatton,Cotto,Oscar never asked for olympic drug style testing but the mayweathers are?
They're scared.

hatton, cotto, and oscar also were beat the f--- down by pacquiao. bad comparison.

that was the article i read.

you know i don't make stuff up. if i'm wrong i'm just wrong.

which article did roach say 6 weeks before? never saw that one. that seems odd.

i'm too lazy to post a link, but it was a recent article....no later than last week.

it was something like "Roach Talks Drug-Testing, Mayweather"

[rommel357]

there is no problem with taking the tests after the fight, if camp manny wants to....but they agreed to do the olympic style tests leading UP TO THE FIGHT, so what's with the stipulation that they don't want to do it within 6 weeks of the fight???

like i said, make excuses all you want, i don't care what roach says, as its proven he'll say 1 thing 1 day, then tomorrow say something completely different. i don't care about roach, and what roach knows, and whether or not he knows manny better than floyd sr.....that **** don't matter to me.

my question is simply to ANYONE: how can taking a drug test 3 weeks before a fight, be a mental detriment to a fighter, unless he is hiding something and doesn't want to get caught????






once again, not saying i believe manny is taking steroids, but excuses like the one roach gave, certainly won't help to ease any doubts ppl have....

feel free to answer my question any time....

Are you 100% sure that's how they do Olympic Test steroids procedure. Show me proof that that is how they do it exactly in Olympic testing procedure for steroids that they have to take that much blood testing.

DRUG TESTS

URINALYSIS

The most frequently used drug test for Anabolic steroid testing is urinalysis. The bodybuilder or other athlete is notified of the test after being awarded first, second or third place in a competition. Athletes who competed, but did not place in the top three, may also be chosen at random to be tested. The person must present himself/herself to the testing site immediately after the awards ceremony. The athlete is asked to urinate in the presence of an official to prevent sample tampering. The urine sample is divided into two samples: sample one is stored under close security, only to be used pending the outcome of tests on sample two. Sample two, the test sample, is then subjected to various forms of chemical analysis. One of the most commonly used tests is the gas chromatography procedure.

GAS CHROMATOGRAPHY

In this test a chromatograph converts the urine into gas, screening out traces of forbidden compounds. Under pressure the gas passes through very sensitive columns, which separate the various substances into easily detectable components. If metabolites (breakdown products) of anabolic steroids are detected, the next step is to use a device called a mass spectrometer to determine exactly which steroids are in the athlete’s sample.

LIQUID CHROMATOGRAPHY

Instead of using the gas chromatography method, a variation known as liquid chromatography may be used for anabolic steroid testing. Once again, specialized columns of chemicals are used. The liquid urine is exposed to these columns, and the various constituents of the urine climb the columns to different levels. Drug components can be separated by color and distance

RADIOIMMUNOASSAY (RIA)

This test was developed in the early seventies, and was considered at the time to be the end-all to drug use in sports. Because RIA involves the use of radioactive isotopes, the number of laboratories which can carry out this test are limited. For this procedure, radioactive isotopes and specific foreign substance antibodies are added to a urine sample. If no banned steroids are present, the antibodies and isotopes combine and can be filtered out of the solution. There would be no remaining radioactivity in the sample. In a positive sample, the antibodies do not combine with the isotopes, and radioactivity remains. The chromatography and mass spectrometer tests are considered the top of the line in anabolic steroid testing, and have replaced RIA tests.

TESTOSTERONE RATIO TESTING

In the past, male athletes who knew that competitors at a particular event were to be tested for steroids, would simply discontinue the use of the steroids well in advance of the competition. When they stopped anabolic steroid use, they substituted pure testosterone. The purpose was to maintain strength, size, and other performance gains.

Scientists and drug testers became aware of this countermeasure and in response they developed a counter-countermeasure. As testosterone is broken down, one of its breakdown products, epitestosterone, is produced. The normal ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone is 1:1. When an athlete takes artificial testosterone, the amount of testosterone in the urine is increased, but the amount of epitestosterone excreted does not change. Thus the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone increases dramatically. If the athlete’s ratio exceeds 6:1, the athlete is disqualified. For example, one powerlifter was tested and his ratio was 100:1!

Not only is the ratio indicative of testosterone use by an athlete, it also reveals to the tester whether or not the individual was using high levels of anabolic steroids. When an athlete uses anabolic steroids, the body’s own testosterone levels are reduced dramatically. When the user stops taking steroids, the body’s own testosterone production resumes, to bring testosterone levels back to the pre-steroid state. In some cases, the athlete’s body over-produces testosterone, thus shifting the testosterone to epitestosterone ratio upwards, past the acceptable upper limit of 6:1.

TESTING ACCURACY

From 1986 to 1988, Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson was tested 19 times for anabolic steroids at various competitions. Although he was using anabolic steroids throughout this period, all tests were negative. Even in 1988, Olympic athletes using steroids managed to pass sophisticated IOC anabolic steroid tests. More than 50 male athletes who competed in the Seoul Olympics were later found to have used anabolic steroids in the six months prior to the games. These results came to light after a more sophisticated testing procedure was carried out on 1100 urine samples (collected during the games), which had been stored.

The present detection capabilities for some steroids are in the .25 mg (nanogram) range. This means that the specific metabolites for a drug such as Deca-durabolin can be measured, even when they exist in a concentration of one quarter part per billion! In most cases the tests can detect steroid use for only as long as the steroid is exerting a physiological effect on the athlete’s system.

There are numerous factors that increase or decrease a bodybuilder’s chances of passing or failing an anabolic steroid test. These include:

The type of anabolic steroids used
How long the individual was on the drugs
The dosages used
The purity of the steroids
The type of steroid cycle followed
The individual’s genetics

It’s because of these factors that bodybuilders and other athletes have developed a whole series of anabolic steroid test counter measures to be drug tests.

[Left Hook Tua]

hatton, cotto, and oscar also were beat the f--- down by pacquiao. bad comparison.



i'm too lazy to post a link, but it was a recent article....no later than last week.

it was something like "Roach Talks Drug-Testing, Mayweather"

i'll look for it.

i personally don't think manny is on roids but i don't understand why roach would say 6 weeks before.

that doesn't make sense.

1 week or a few days before and no bloodtesting is fine as long as they do a bloodtest right after the fight.

roach is not doing a good job of defending manny's innocence if he's whining about 6 weeks before.

[FLY TY]

Red K for someone having a different opinion is weak as says something abut the people doing it lol. I've seen a lot of that. That's what I call weak "mentally. I hate to imagine how they are in real life.

the red K thing is weak in general. if i disagree with somebody, even if they're an idiot, i'll just argue them down until i get tired of it.....

give out green K, it comes back to you, give out red K, it usually does the same.

[pugay_kamay]

The truth is....

Both fighters blood will be donated to the RED CROSS Blood bank.

And will be studied for DNA sampling and future CLONING!

[VERDUGO]

Why would anyone before ask for one
they didnt really have much to go by
Cotto was the really the first flag raiser cause the others seemed more probable

Oscar weight issues never really landed anything of meaning.. Hatton in/out of shape issues plus there fight was two rounds
add the fact that pac is really good and its probable

then you take cotto who never been dominated by a small fry before and then people start asking questions

He probably is clean. But i think for a million dollar fight IN PROFESSIONAL BOXING (NOT PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING WHERE WE LOOK THE OTHER WAY) a blood test is a very reasonable demand..

See....this is what I mean.
*****s are shocked of what Pac has done.THEY CAN'T BELIEVE HOW GREAT this little man from the Philippines is so they come up with all these kind of excuses and they say he is on some kind of steroids.Have you *****s ever thought that PAC is just that good?
If it wasn't for Sr. Crackhead's accusation, all this steroid talk wouldn't have even existed.
Why can't you *****s just accept fact that PAC is better than Floyd and ya'll are scared?.