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if they drain pac of blood, then floyd should be forced to do something he's uncomfortable with, like not being gayComment
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So are you going to show me proof that the Olympic testing requires constant blood testing or are you just going to take what Mayweather Sr. says. I posted what i found to be the standard procedure on Olympic drug testing. If that is not correct, please show me one that shows exactly what the Olympic drug testing procedure is. In regards to Roach response of Manny might be affected mentally by the blood test, i still don't see anything wrong or su****ious with that. You're reading into it as being su****ious or even guilty of some wrong doing because of your presumptions that Manny might be doing something illegal. Because if you weren't, you wouldn't even have any doubts because of the fact that there haven't been any legit or creidible cause to even slightly suspect Manny of doing anything illegal. Bottom line is and the fact is, all of you that has doubts and accusing Manny of using PHD's are based on Mayweather Sr.'s accusations, nothing else. You all believe him because you're a Floyd fan and would believe anything to discredit Manny, plain and simple.Last edited by rommel357; 12-22-2009, 06:35 PM.Comment
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Are you serious Manny has won big and his jumping of weight is reason to light the fire ,,, what do you think it takes to suspect an athlete ? a photo of him shooting up in the change room , a racehorse only has to win a big race and it is tested , look at the big picture mate .Comment
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the only ppl roach is playing games with is us.....as long as this **** goes back and forth, the longer the fight takes to get signed.
it's pretty simple, they agreed to the tests, if they have nothing to hide, they should STFU and move on.
what have you posted about "standard" olympic drug testing procedure?
i didn't know you worked for the committee, but since you do, let me ask you, is it normal to test an athlete for 4 weeks, then stop within 6 weeks of the time they perform....
it doesn't matter what "standard" procedure is, all that matters is what's been agreed upon in the contract for this fight.....and neither you or I have seen the contract for the fight. this is not the olympics. and all i know, is what i've been saying, "it's pretty damn strange to agree to testing, but say it has to stop 6 weeks prior to the fight, b/c of some bull**** mental affect it will have on the fighter."Comment
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You do know that Floyd has done the same thing right. Why don't you tell me what does it take to suspect an athlete of taking some kind of PHD, since you're the expert on this. Please enlighten us with your wisdom. Please give me an example in regards to Manny of what signs of even photos that you find without any shadow of a doubt that Manny is taking PHD's. Better yet since you know more about this, just prove it. C'mon, show us some credible and legit proof, no opinions or observations, actual legitimate and credible proof.Comment
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Wrong. AS far as i know, They agreed to the Olympic drug testing procedure. What they're dis*****g right now is the blood testing that Mayweather's camp wants that i don't think is part of the Olympic drug testing procedure. YOu're right that none of us have seen the actual agreement or contract, so how do you know what they have agreed upon, you just completely contradicted yourself. Anyway, here's what i found that is supposed to be the standard Olympic drug testing procedure. You're turn.
DRUG TESTS
URINALYSIS
The most frequently used drug test for Anabolic steroid testing is urinalysis. The bodybuilder or other athlete is notified of the test after being awarded first, second or third place in a competition. Athletes who competed, but did not place in the top three, may also be chosen at random to be tested. The person must present himself/herself to the testing site immediately after the awards ceremony. The athlete is asked to urinate in the presence of an official to prevent sample tampering. The urine sample is divided into two samples: sample one is stored under close security, only to be used pending the outcome of tests on sample two. Sample two, the test sample, is then subjected to various forms of chemical analysis. One of the most commonly used tests is the gas chromatography procedure.
GAS CHROMATOGRAPHY
In this test a chromatograph converts the urine into gas, screening out traces of forbidden compounds. Under pressure the gas passes through very sensitive columns, which separate the various substances into easily detectable components. If metabolites (breakdown products) of anabolic steroids are detected, the next step is to use a device called a mass spectrometer to determine exactly which steroids are in the athlete’s sample.
LIQUID CHROMATOGRAPHY
Instead of using the gas chromatography method, a variation known as liquid chromatography may be used for anabolic steroid testing. Once again, specialized columns of chemicals are used. The liquid urine is exposed to these columns, and the various constituents of the urine climb the columns to different levels. Drug components can be separated by color and distance
RADIOIMMUNOASSAY (RIA)
This test was developed in the early seventies, and was considered at the time to be the end-all to drug use in sports. Because RIA involves the use of radioactive isotopes, the number of laboratories which can carry out this test are limited. For this procedure, radioactive isotopes and specific foreign substance antibodies are added to a urine sample. If no banned steroids are present, the antibodies and isotopes combine and can be filtered out of the solution. There would be no remaining radioactivity in the sample. In a positive sample, the antibodies do not combine with the isotopes, and radioactivity remains. The chromatography and mass spectrometer tests are considered the top of the line in anabolic steroid testing, and have replaced RIA tests.
TESTOSTERONE RATIO TESTING
In the past, male athletes who knew that competitors at a particular event were to be tested for steroids, would simply discontinue the use of the steroids well in advance of the competition. When they stopped anabolic steroid use, they substituted pure testosterone. The purpose was to maintain strength, size, and other performance gains.
Scientists and drug testers became aware of this countermeasure and in response they developed a counter-countermeasure. As testosterone is broken down, one of its breakdown products, epitestosterone, is produced. The normal ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone is 1:1. When an athlete takes artificial testosterone, the amount of testosterone in the urine is increased, but the amount of epitestosterone excreted does not change. Thus the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone increases dramatically. If the athlete’s ratio exceeds 6:1, the athlete is disqualified. For example, one powerlifter was tested and his ratio was 100:1!
Not only is the ratio indicative of testosterone use by an athlete, it also reveals to the tester whether or not the individual was using high levels of anabolic steroids. When an athlete uses anabolic steroids, the body’s own testosterone levels are reduced dramatically. When the user stops taking steroids, the body’s own testosterone production resumes, to bring testosterone levels back to the pre-steroid state. In some cases, the athlete’s body over-produces testosterone, thus shifting the testosterone to epitestosterone ratio upwards, past the acceptable upper limit of 6:1.
TESTING ACCURACY
From 1986 to 1988, Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson was tested 19 times for anabolic steroids at various competitions. Although he was using anabolic steroids throughout this period, all tests were negative. Even in 1988, Olympic athletes using steroids managed to pass sophisticated IOC anabolic steroid tests. More than 50 male athletes who competed in the Seoul Olympics were later found to have used anabolic steroids in the six months prior to the games. These results came to light after a more sophisticated testing procedure was carried out on 1100 urine samples (collected during the games), which had been stored.
The present detection capabilities for some steroids are in the .25 mg (nanogram) range. This means that the specific metabolites for a drug such as Deca-durabolin can be measured, even when they exist in a concentration of one quarter part per billion! In most cases the tests can detect steroid use for only as long as the steroid is exerting a physiological effect on the athlete’s system.
There are numerous factors that increase or decrease a bodybuilder’s chances of passing or failing an anabolic steroid test. These include:
The type of anabolic steroids used
How long the individual was on the drugs
The dosages used
The purity of the steroids
The type of steroid cycle followed
The individual’s genetics
It’s because of these factors that bodybuilders and other athletes have developed a whole series of anabolic steroid test counter measures to be drug tests.Comment
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manny used something, he knows how to pass drug tests..
all this is just mental games and publicity stunts, it also might serve to lessen pacs shine if he wins.. win/win for mayweather
pac already said the accusations made him mad before.. how do you think he feels now?
if i remember correctly mayweather also tried to piss hatton off, then when hatton rushed him like a bull he kept his thinking cap on and countered all nightComment
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