Will Pacquiao's "High Work Rate" really be the difference?

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  • DLT
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    #11
    Originally posted by onedream722
    I think it can be. Every punch manny throws at mayweather while he is against the ropes will cause a huge roar of cheers from all the fans present, which could very well sway judges opinions on the rounds.
    People think Pac will have the crowd but he wont at all. The fight is too big and the odds are too good. The odds will make a ton of people bet on Floyd so the crowd will probably be split nearly in half even if there cheering on Floyd for the wrong reason

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    • Robert Mugabe
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      #12
      Originally posted by onedream722
      I think it can be. Every punch manny throws at mayweather while he is against the ropes will cause a huge roar of cheers from all the fans present, which could very well sway judges opinions on the rounds.
      I'm sure you have watched Floyd fight too many times to know he makes people miss by a mile.He makes it look so good defending that people stand up in adulation.If you watched even his last fight you should have seen the likes of P Diddy standing in ovation when Floyd was defending.Those judges will be ring side so the screaming Pinoys on nosebleed seats (because people in that section dont have a clear view)will not have an effect on judges.

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      • Left2body
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        #13
        It could be not because of the points but because he is use to that pace and PBF isn't.

        We know that Pac can throw leather all day and still be in good shape. However, we don't know if PBF, who if forced to constantly trade, can keep up that pace. Now I know PBF's stamina has never been questioned but when was the last time he had to really fight for 3 minutes? He usually dictates a slower pace with his skill.

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        • PensionKiller
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          #14
          People forget that Pac is the one moving up. They tested 145 out and Roach's team believe he is capable at 147 from the Cotto fight. I believe that he can be even stronger at 147 and maintain the speed by not having to worry too much about draining.

          It will be a hard task for Pac to beat someone who is physically as great as him. They are both quite awesome athletes and are better at certain things.

          Both have stamina, but Pac throws a hell of a lot of accurate punches from both angles considering the speed. Mayweather can read a lot of people, but Pac has a rhythm that isn't easy to stop, and with his speed, even Myaweather can't stop all the punches getting through because he won't be able to see all the shots. The issue now is, what will May throw in return.

          Pac has definitely changed. He has a right hand that is potent but also he darts a lot more. He use to be a person who goees forward and forward thinking he is the bigger man, and that played into someone like Marquez.
          Roach knows that Pac has to be offensive but also that he has to get out of range. 2 or 3 good spurts can win a round if he makes sure that every other encoutner is equal.

          Workrate will be the key to this. No one will get a KO. If Pac is fast enough and throws enough to get through that defence, then May has to pull out some **** that we havent seen in a while to win.

          That being said, a May that has to be aggressive will make this fight damn fun.
          Last edited by PensionKiller; 12-22-2009, 04:41 AM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Robert Mugabe
            People have had cotton wool pulled over their eyes.Pacquiao hasnt improved,he has been well matched in fighting people who are in front of him to hit.Marquez owned him,Floyd will put him away.He jumps in and Floyd will definitely put him down and switch his lights off.He will use Manny's momentum againts him,actually he's a perfect candidate of the check hook.
            Floyd hasn't fought anyone recently with his speed. At that level you can't see shots, and I know May is great at reading shots and seeing them, but his reaction won't be enough. Manny has a fast left that he uses rather than his jab. It will have to be a right hand that puts him down, but he has so manny shots that you can't read him at all live like a Hatton.

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            • shadeyfizzle
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              #16
              The difference is that Marquez didnt just counterpunch Pacquiao. Marquez beat Pacquiao to the punch as well.

              Mayweather might jab 1st but other than that he literally doesnt throw anything unless he's sure it's gonna land. Meaning he will wait for Pacquiao to throw 1st.

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                #17
                Floyd will be forced to defend most of the rounds

                unless he decides to let go of his hands

                Pac ain't dumb to let Floyd potshot him all night

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                • Robert Mugabe
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MaD vEiN
                  Floyd will be forced to defend most of the rounds

                  unless he decides to let go of his hands

                  Pac ain't dumb to let Floyd potshot him all night
                  But he was dump to let Marquez pot shot him all night?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Robert Mugabe
                    But he was dump to let Marquez pot shot him all night?
                    jmm did'nt potshot him...he threw combos......

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by baracuda
                      jmm did'nt potshot him...he threw combos......
                      And Floyd cant throw combos?He's less versatile than Marquez according to the intelligent ones right?

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