Roy Jones jr: Triumph and Downfall, Physical gifts or Skills?

[djtmal]

TKO'd, he was on his feet when they stopped the fight and immediately talked to the ref afterwards, he wasn't even out of it that much at the actual time they stopped it. That isn't "knocked out".

i understand you gotta find solace somewhere, but face it...he didn't look that good...

[THE REED]

people miss the point.he didnt lose his reflexes as much as he lost his confidence.comparin him to floyd is a bad example.mike tyson would be more accurate.all the physical gifts but once he lost,he was never close to the same.when you dont have that aura of invicibility guys are gonna attack you much differently.he needed that b.s weight loss excuse to tryt an convince himself thats what it was

Right because it was OBVIOUS after Ruiz he still had the same exact ability.... and tarver I he was still unbeaten*

[THE REED]

i understand you gotta find solace somewhere, but face it...he didn't look that good...

**** last 90 seconds I have no clue how he looked...

[djtmal]

**** last 90 seconds I have no clue how he looked...

it was the first half of round one, and he was already doing the 'falling back on the ropes' move...you know what move i'm talking about... he was backing back, backing back with his arms wide open, and a c(+)fighter was fast enough to nail him and put him on the canvas with one shot...ROY used to put guys down with that move....time to hang 'em up roy...

[ThePlugInBabies]

Campaigning at heavyweight and keeping all that muscle wouldn't have been a bad idea.

1. it wasn't all muscle, i love the fact people assume roy just walked around at 175 in between fights. this myth must be put to bed.

2. roy would of eventually suffered a brutal ko loss at hw. there's a reason he went after ruiz.

[Xcusemymood]

Ive never really bought into the 15+ lbs weight loss excuse, since when does weight loss make a man lose his reflexes, legs and chin? Tarver lost more than him as well 45 lbs and hasnt suffered the same fate.

But right after that Bhop beat the **** out of him....

[THE REED]

it was the first half of round one, and he was already doing the 'falling back on the ropes' move...you know what move i'm talking about... he was backing back, backing back with his arms wide open, and a c(+)fighter was fast enough to nail him and put him on the canvas with one shot...ROY used to put guys down with that move....time to hang 'em up roy...

Yeah but Roys been doing that **** the last 6 years.. He has fought well off the ropes recently. It's just this time he got caught with a poor defense against a hard hitter. Green isnt a great fighter but he IS a hard hitter if nothing else. Roy was also landed about 8-9 jabs in a row cleanly.. when he went back to the ropes he just did a ****ty hands up tthe side defense and Green caught him on the rear side of the head. Like you said, in his prime that would of never happened though.

[THE REED]

1. it wasn't all muscle, i love the fact people assume roy just walked around at 175 in between fights. this myth must be put to bed.

2. roy would of eventually suffered a brutal ko loss at hw. there's a reason he went after ruiz.

He walks around at 185-190lbs when campaigning at LHW, And it was muscle that he had to lose because he CLEARLY gained about 10-15lbs of solid muscle. He is clearly bigger at 195lbs, and not just blown up... actual muscle gain.

[djtmal]

Yeah but Roys been doing that **** the last 6 years.. He has fought well off the ropes recently. It's just this time he got caught with a poor defense against a hard hitter. Green isnt a great fighter but he IS a hard hitter if nothing else. Roy was also landed about 8-9 jabs in a row cleanly.. when he went back to the ropes he just did a ****ty hands up tthe side defense and Green caught him on the rear side of the head. Like you said, in his prime that would of never happened though.

you know i'm keeping it real...even if the shot landed in his prime, like it did against griffin, he didn't just fold over...

[shonuff488]

It's a shame people are judging this man by what has happened recently. How soon they forget what Roy did under the age of 35 before the Ruiz fight. The man was dam near unbeatable.