ROACH: We'll try to catch Mayweather early, if he survives it's Pacquiao by UD!

[Pullcounter]

lol, Floyd is going to have to fight the perfect fight? Come on man, be real. He's not those other guys. Coto, Hatton, Diaz, and Oscar have to fight the perfect fight. How can you say if Floyd loses early then he will have to rally and get KO when most experts think he will lose early? I think Pac has a chance to stop him early before Floyd adjust.

agree, floyd will adjust

Other then that he better hurt Floyd enough to put him in a permanent daze the rest of the fight.

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If not then even if Pac is up 3-0 or 3-1 and has landed some hard shots, it still wont be enough. Floyd will straight shut him out the rest of the way.

myth

Roach knows it too. Thats why he wants Pac to either stop him early or hurt him super bad like Forrest did Shane because if he doesnt do one of the 2 then he's going to lose, even if he has a lead and even if he's landed some other hard shots. It wont be enough to stop Floyd from shutting him out the rest of the way because he's far superior to Pac as a skilled boxer

floyd's orthodox technique may be superior, but that' doesn't mean he's the more skilled boxer.

if floyd falls behind early he will have to catch up. to catch up he's gonna have to throw more punches, thus exposing himself to return fire from pac. If I'm floyd, I want to win the early rounds so that I can run the rest of the fight instead of putting pressure on pac.

thus, floyd has to fight the perfect fight. floyd's not gonna want to fall behind early.

it's a myth that pbf will easily outbox pac. remember, cotto ran from pac and lost every round that he was running. you can't run from pac and win in vegas. vegas favors aggression and activity.

[DLT]

different types of speed though. Regardless Floyd is still going to have some trouble with Pacquiao.

Its different but to me its far harder for Floyd. Pac is super fast but its all regular speed. People get mad when Senior says that but its true. Pac is fast but its just all rapid punching. Anyone can do that and I think you are going to have hell hitting Floyd with **** like that no matter what speed. Zab is more about timing and throwing darts. Thats harder to defend and thats why he caught Floyd a couple of times. It catches you off guard.

None of that really matters though because I honestly think that sparring can only do so much. I think speed could win this fight on its own. Some may say that Pac is faster but its truly about your opponents. Floyd has been in the ring with super fast Southpaws like Zab, Chop, and Mitchell while Pac has never ever fought anyone with speed. The fastest guys he's fought are like JMM & Cotto and Floyd is 10x faster than them. You can try to simulate that in training but its not the same and I think that will be a shock to Pac

[DLT]

agree, floyd will adjust


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myth


floyd's orthodox technique may be superior, but that' doesn't mean he's the more skilled boxer.

if floyd falls behind early he will have to catch up. to catch up he's gonna have to throw more punches, thus exposing himself to return fire from pac. If I'm floyd, I want to win the early rounds so that I can run the rest of the fight instead of putting pressure on pac.

thus, floyd has to fight the perfect fight. floyd's not gonna want to fall behind early.

it's a myth that pbf will easily outbox pac. remember, cotto ran from pac and lost every round that he was running. you can't run from pac and win in vegas. vegas favors aggression and activity.

I dont think he's going to run at all. I think he's going to clown him JMM style excpet times it by 10 since Floyd is better than JMM in every single way

[Calilloyd]

Why come out and reveal parts of your plan?

One thing I noticed from reading this is that I think they are either underestimating the strength of Mayweather or just not talking about it.. Roach wants JW fighters for speed but from they can't match Mayweather's strength. Demracus Corley has sparred with Mayweather a lot and said Mayweather is very strong and more than fighters realize until they get in the ring. Mayweather can bully Pacquioa around in that ring on the inside and people are going to be surprised by that. And if Pacquioa is looking to end things early he might find himself on the canvas early.

[OaktownGhost]

Its different but to me its far harder for Floyd. Pac is super fast but its all regular speed. People get mad when Senior says that but its true. Pac is fast but its just all rapid punching. Anyone can do that and I think you are going to have hell hitting Floyd with **** like that no matter what speed. Zab is more about timing and throwing darts. Thats harder to defend and thats why he caught Floyd a couple of times. It catches you off guard.

None of that really matters though because I honestly think that sparring can only do so much. I think speed could win this fight on its own. Some may say that Pac is faster but its truly about your opponents. Floyd has been in the ring with super fast Southpaws like Zab, Chop, and Mitchell while Pac has never ever fought anyone with speed. The fastest guys he's fought are like JMM & Cotto and Floyd is 10x faster than them. You can try to simulate that in training but its not the same and I think that will be a shock to Pac

what about barrera and morales; where they not fast or faster then cotto and jmm?

[alb829]

"Mayweather will have no more excuses; We'll catch him early, if not it's going to be Pacquiao by unanimous decision."

WE??? We who? Is Freddie fighting Mayweather too?! The old man needs to shut up!!! I'm sick of him talking. I like Pacquiao but I'm sick of Roach trying to be in the spotlight yet again!!!

[Verstyle]

"Pacquiao will strike on at unexpected angles that Mayweather will become frozen from taking too many shots." Roach adds.

You putting real money down on this? If so I'll be getting a $1,000 on Floyd. You can bet against me. I'll set it up February if you're down.

[DLT]

Pacquiao put everybody in a daze early on. Cotto, Hatton, Oscar, Diaz, Marquez, you name it. Marquez (second fight) was walking back to the wrong corner by round 3. Propers to him, he came through and did good, however, that was against a 130lb Pacquiao.

And as I said elsewhere, a single punch can change any fight around. You know how it goes dude -- everyone has a plan until they get hit. I know Floyd is hard to hit, but far from impossible against a super fast puncher.

A single punch cant be hit on Floyd after the early rounds. He has to get him in those first 4 or hurt him super bad. Pac hurt all those guys early but 3 of them were pressure guys who were coming at him and JMM gets hit clean in every fight. Basically all 4 guys have limited speed and are horrible at defense. It wont be that easy against Floyd, and he has nice size & length to go with it which makes Pac have to travel even further to land a punch

[DLT]

what about barrera and morales; where they not fast or faster then cotto and jmm?

You can debate on that all day but its pointless because aint none of them fast guys

[OaktownGhost]

You can debate on that all day but its pointless because aint none of them fast guys

Yeah they are, but not as fast and precise as May though. You are telling me that Morales was slow? Hell nah. I don't know though I want to see how they both handle each other's speed. We can make predictions all we want but in the end they dont mean squat because anything can happen in the ring. it is good though to chat it up and debate. I am wondering though if Floyd is going to pot shot throughout the fight or pull combos