ROACH: We'll try to catch Mayweather early, if he survives it's Pacquiao by UD!

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  • Cash Cow
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    #111
    Originally posted by Easy Work






    Roach is a funny ass dude....

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    • Lady Fan
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      #112
      Originally posted by Easy Work
      Miguel Cotto almost lasted the entire fight and he was getting punched all night....and yet the most defensive fighter ever wont last as long as cotto??...lol
      When the "Most Defensive Fighter" is broken down by the "Pacman Fighting Machine," then yes, a "Full-Tactical-Retreat" by Floyd reminiscent of Cotto is a more than likely scenario leading to his defeat. JAT

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        #113
        Originally posted by Lady Fan 2
        When the "Most Defensive Fighter" is broken down by the "Pacman Fighting Machine," then yes, a "Full-Tactical-Retreat" by Floyd reminiscent of Cotto is a more than likely scenario leading to his defeat. JAT
        how is he going to break Mayweather down though? When have you EVER seen Mayweather is "full tactical retreat" in a fight?....

        you obviously dont understand what "styles make fights" means.

        You have only been watching the sport of boxing for 3 years....i must question your credibility

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          #114
          I'm a Pac fan and I'll be rooting for him as much as anybody, but to believe that this will be an easy fight for Pac or to even think that he is the favorite in this fight is delusional.

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          • BillyBoxing
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            #115
            Originally posted by Sorbetero
            zab stamina > pac stamina
            LOL??
            Is it a joke??
            If you look at Cotto vs Zab and Cotto vs Pac,you will see that Pac is much tougher and active fighter.
            Zab has no heart and gas out after 5 rounds.

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            • Lady Fan
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              #116
              Originally posted by Easy Work
              how is he going to break Mayweather down though? When have you EVER seen Mayweather is "full tactical retreat" in a fight?....

              you obviously dont understand what "styles make fights" means.

              You have only been watching the sport of boxing for 3 years....i must question your credibility
              There is a first time for everything Easy. When have you seen the Pacman not go into "Full War Mode" against an opponent? Geez, don't make me sound as though everything I say is totally impossible. Believe it, I have full confidence that Mayweather will do "A LOT" of retreating in this fight. Don't kid yourself into believing that won't happen. JAT
              Last edited by Lady Fan; 12-21-2009, 05:12 PM.

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                #117
                Originally posted by DLT
                Its different but to me its far harder for Floyd. Pac is super fast but its all regular speed. People get mad when Senior says that but its true. Pac is fast but its just all rapid punching. Anyone can do that and I think you are going to have hell hitting Floyd with **** like that no matter what speed. Zab is more about timing and throwing darts. Thats harder to defend and thats why he caught Floyd a couple of times. It catches you off guard.

                None of that really matters though because I honestly think that sparring can only do so much. I think speed could win this fight on its own. Some may say that Pac is faster but its truly about your opponents. Floyd has been in the ring with super fast Southpaws like Zab, Chop, and Mitchell while Pac has never ever fought anyone with speed. The fastest guys he's fought are like JMM & Cotto and Floyd is 10x faster than them. You can try to simulate that in training but its not the same and I think that will be a shock to Pac
                Manny has fought 80% of his fights in the lower weight division, from flyweight to featherweight where everybody moves quicker and faster, manny's eyes are already trained with fast moving opponents, so the myth that floyd moves 10x faster than any fighter manny has faced is just a myth, jmm is a slow featherweight compared to the others that manny has faced. But if you tell me that this will be the first time that manny will face a black american-slick-defensive-fighter that i can agree on.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Sorbetero
                  zab stamina > pac stamina
                  What? Do you watch boxing?

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                    #119
                    Roach did pretty well against Floyd with a 35 year old DelaHoya... He has a much better fighter to execute his plan this time around. That being said, if Floyd really is good enough to hit and avoid Pac for 12 rounds and win CLEARLY, he really is ATG status.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      Its different but to me its far harder for Floyd. Pac is super fast but its all regular speed. People get mad when Senior says that but its true. Pac is fast but its just all rapid punching. Anyone can do that and I think you are going to have hell hitting Floyd with **** like that no matter what speed. Zab is more about timing and throwing darts. Thats harder to defend and thats why he caught Floyd a couple of times. It catches you off guard.

                      None of that really matters though because I honestly think that sparring can only do so much. I think speed could win this fight on its own. Some may say that Pac is faster but its truly about your opponents. Floyd has been in the ring with super fast Southpaws like Zab, Chop, and Mitchell while Pac has never ever fought anyone with speed. The fastest guys he's fought are like JMM & Cotto and Floyd is 10x faster than them. You can try to simulate that in training but its not the same and I think that will be a shock to Pac

                      If anyone can do that why other boxer can't execute it during their fights?

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