Mayweather Jr Vs Pavlik at 154, who takes it???

[Syf]

Floyd would land NO significant punch if he does this. He'd never plant his feet for fear of getting hit. Even is he was planting his feet, who the hell thinks Floyd's punches are stronger than JT's or Hopkins? Floyd's power against a MW is laughable.

The whole while Pavlik will just be hitting to the body the entire time. Crushing Middleweight power blows to ribs over the course of 6 or 7 rounds will slow Floyd's footwork down for the inevitable straight right to the chin.

Pavlik by Late KO.

Have you watched all of Floyd's fights? He doesn't need to be flat footed to leverage power into his shots. With his lunging straight right hand, its all about putting his body weight behind the punch.. With the hook, its similar.

Its not always about power, but timing, angles. Floyd is not a slugger, he is a technician.

You still haven't established any clear case on how the fuck Pavlik would even catch Floyd with his slow ass punches and plodding.

And yet, I have, on how Floyd could land on Pavlik and systematically dissect him

[Larry Merchant]

Totaly different fight if it at 160 kelly would not be able to fight well at 154.

[Alec900]

well if it is that easy why doesn't Floyd do it?

[Larry Merchant]

6 pounds is alot in prize fighting he could walk into the ring at 178 at 6'2.5 he would be way to big for PBF.

[ThePunchingBag]

Have you watched all of Floyd's fights? He doesn't need to be flat footed to leverage power into his shots. With his lunging straight right hand, its all about putting his body weight behind the punch.. With the hook, its similar.

Its not always about power, but timing, angles. Floyd is not a slugger, he is a technician.

You still haven't established any clear case on how the fuck Pavlik would even catch Floyd with his slow ass punches and plodding.

And yet, I have, on how Floyd could land on Pavlik and systematically dissect him

So you think Floyd has enough power to keep Pavlik off of him?



He could barely hurt a bloated Lightweight, but now he has enough power to stun a MW?

You haven't even established how Floyd would get inside, land clean punches and get out without being hit or caught lunging in while fighting a taller guy with more reach and vastly more power.

Lunging would just get him caught with a power shot. Floyd has good footwork, but if he wants to land then Pavlik will land something in return. It might not be clean, but with MW power behind it, it'll hurt Floyd.

Pavlik just needs to charge inside and land some decent body shots for 6 or 7 rounds. Floyd being the safety first fighter he is, won't stop moving for a second. It'll just be one punch at a time for him. If Pavlik bumrushes Floyd I don't think Floyd can last for 12 rounds.

[Syf]

So you think Floyd has enough power to keep Pavlik off of him?

He doesn't need it. God almighty, do you read? He would move. Pavlik couldn't catch him for **** man!

You haven't even established how Floyd would get inside, land clean punches and get out without being hit or caught lunging in while fighting a taller guy with more reach and vastly more power.

By beating him to the punch with his speed, and footwork... and out thinking his man.

Lunging would just get him caught with a power shot. Floyd has good footwork, but if he wants to land then Pavlik will land something in return. It might not be clean, but with MW power behind it, it'll hurt Floyd.

wrong. Floyd specializes in hitting and getting away scott free.

Pavlik just needs to charge inside and land some decent body shots for 6 or 7 rounds. Floyd being the safety first fighter he is, won't stop moving for a second. It'll just be one punch at a time for him. If Pavlik bumrushes Floyd I don't think Floyd can last for 12 rounds.

Pavlik rushes Floyd in a straight ****ing line, Floyd sidesteps, slips punches, all of which he sees, and strafes Pav with his own shots on the inside... Then skitters away and rinses and repeats.

I'm done with you you're an idiot

[RockStar45]

No chance Pavlik catches Mayweather and hurts him. Kelly fights like he's stuck in quicksand.

Mayweather 120-108 on all three scorecards. At 154 or 160 or 200. Doesn't matter.

[ThePunchingBag]

He doesn't need it. God almighty, do you read? He would move. Pavlik couldn't catch him for **** man!



By beating him to the punch with his speed, and footwork... and out thinking his man.



wrong. Floyd specializes in hitting and getting away scott free.



Pavlik rushes Floyd in a straight ****ing line, Floyd sidesteps, slips punches, all of which he sees, and strafes Pav with his own shots on the inside... Then skitters away and rinses and repeats.

I'm done with you you're an idiot

So here is your imagined scenario.

Punchstat numbers:

Mayweather: 100% of punches landed
Pavlik: 0% of punches landed

Yeah... I'm the idiot.

[mathed]

No chance Pavlik catches Mayweather and hurts him. Kelly fights like he's stuck in quicksand.

Mayweather 120-108 on all three scorecards. At 154 or 160 or 200. Doesn't matter.

Man, this is getting carried away now. Floyd is good but for crying out loud Marquez tagged Floyd several times flush as slowed down as he was fighting Mayweather. Mayweather is not some mythical beast that can morph and shape shift into anything he wants, he has physical limitations just like anyone else. Pavlik is not as slow as people on here are portraying him to be. Hopkins was tying him up on the inside and using quick, short hooks to tag him before tying him up again so he could not get off.

Why do you people think Mayweather has not fought any of the top welters since becoming one? He does not have the power to knock them out much less Pavlik. I'd love to see Mayweather move up to 160 pounds and fight those big boys. It would take everything that Mayweather has to run for 12 rds to avoid getting ko'd and it would not take much to do it. Pavlik would have much more leverage on his shots than Mayweather would and as has been stated, an accumulation of Pavlik's shots on the arms, shoulders, chest, and stomach would leave Mayweather hurting by the 6th rd or so.

Mayweather could outpoint him but it would not be easy for sure, he would be scared for his life in there. I'm not going to even entertain the idea of Floyd at SMW or any of that other insane stuff, he would get slaughtered by any of the top guys there: Ward, Dirrell, Abraham, Bute, would have a field day walking through anything that Floyd could offer and beating him senseless....Floyd is not invincible just like Pac isn't, he knows this and that is why he has a team to negotiate fight stipulations for him. Otherwise he would have already fought and beaten Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Margarito instead of saying they are not worth his time- he is a low risk taker looking for the most to gain (nothing wrong with that but that is what he is)

[AceNguyen]

This thread is somewhat shocking...people think that the undisputed middleweight champ of the world is an easier fight than welterweights like Berto/Clottey/Cotto/Pac? I know that Pavlik's star is fallen, but good god!