Comments Thread For: Paul Williams' Promoter Fires Back at Kelly Pavlik, Arum

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  • jrosales13
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    #11
    Originally posted by Iceta
    I just care about good fights.
    But, dissing Arum for putting up fights with money coming out of his own pocket. Like a real promoter does. Goosen does not do that. Now compare that to what Arum puts on when he has tv money.

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    • MANGLER
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      #12
      Make this fight already.

      If not, **** on Sergio-JCC Jr and do a rematch.

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      • Ray*
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        #13
        Arum really need to retire if the fight with Williams doesnt come off, A fight like this has the right to be a 50-50 co-promotion and we know who is lying again in this situation.

        Its Pavlik that i feel sorry for, He fought hard to get his chance against Taylor but i have never seen a fighter go down sooo fast like Pavlik has in a couple of years.

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        • Iceta
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          #14
          Originally posted by The_Executioner
          Hopefully the fight goes down sometime next year...

          I don't give a **** about who ducked who and who didn't sign this or that anymore...
          I agree the fight should happen, but Paul's haters are gonna claim that he ducked Pavlik just because he doesn't bow down to him in the negotiation process.

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          • jrosales13
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            #15
            I don't understand why all you guys hate on Arum so much? Without Arum boxing will slow down I tell you that right now. Maybe cuz I am such a boxing junkee that I appreciate Arum so much. For puttin on fighting damn near once a month.

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              #16
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              But, dissing Arum for putting up fights with money coming out of his own pocket. Like a real promoter does. Goosen does not do that. Now compare that to what Arum puts on when he has tv money.

              Arum really have NO choice because some of his fights/card are a joke and no TV people are willing to give him money for rubbish fights, So he has no choice but to put those fight on the latin fury 10003 etc and sell it to people on PPV.

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              • Iceta
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                #17
                Originally posted by Ray`
                Arum really have NO choice because some of his fights/card are a joke and no TV people are willing to give him money for rubbish fights, So he has no choice but to put those fight on the latin fury 10003 etc and sell it to people on PPV.
                Thank you for setting the record straight. HBO would be more willing to work with him if he didn't protect his fighters so much.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Iceta
                  Why do some people hate on Goosen when he puts on better fights than Arum does?
                  Arum put on Pacquiao-Cotto. What fight did Goossen put on that even compares to that? The one thing Goossen does better than Arum is pay off refs and judges.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Ray`
                    Arum really have NO choice because some of his fights/card are a joke and no TV people are willing to give him money for rubbish fights, So he has no choice but to put those fight on the latin fury 10003 etc and sell it to people on PPV.
                    No that is wrong. You have to get tv dates. HBO has a deal with GBP that they gate so many dates a year. HBO has also has a budget. And, they are giving blind dates to GBP. Greenburg gives dates also to Al Haymon fighters. Berto vs a mexican cop suppose to be on HBO. But, Jaunma vs Mtwaga is a joke of a fight? Come on bro. Showtime has very limited tv dates. And, Showtime also does a lot deals whit Shaw. When Arum gets his tv dates you see good fights. But, when he can not get dates. He puts on his own shows. He is the last real promoter left. GBP did just one independent PPV. Shaw has never done one, Goosen has never done one. So when they don't get tv dates and tv money. There fighters just sit out. They do not fight at all. But, I guess you cool with that?

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                    • youngswish23
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                      #20
                      no doubt arum is a great promoter but de la hoya vs forbes wasnt even on ppv. this should have been on versus or something free.

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