Why do they say Martinez was robbed??

**Spray_resistant** · 12-20-2009, 03:02 AM

It was a close fight that you could have had either man up 7-5 no more than that. The robbery was when one judge had it 109-119. Clearly he had that card made out before the fight giving Martinez a slim chance of winning if the other 2 judges had not seen it in his favor.

**Animalistic 5.0** · 12-20-2009, 03:04 AM

Give me a ****ing break pitty patting is not what should be called domination. Martinez landed the clean punches and the harder ones. Now I don't remember what exact rounds I gave who but Martinez clearly won the fight and the most Williams deserved was a draw. I had 7-5 Martinez watching it live and 8-4 after the replay.

**Albo Da Kid** · 12-20-2009, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by Spray_resistant

It was a close fight that you could have had either man up 7-5 no more than that. The robbery was when one judge had it 109-119. Clearly he had that card made out before the fight giving Martinez a slim chance of winning if the other 2 judges had not seen it in his favor.

Yea that was definitely de****able how that judge scored it.

I couldn't see Martinez for a 7-5 though. The most I could have given him would be a 6-6

**Spray_resistant** · 12-20-2009, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by Albo Da Kid

Yea that was definitely de****able how that judge scored it.

I couldn't see Martinez for a 7-5 though. The most I could have given him would be a 6-6

That would be fine as it was close......I hope they fight again, but maybe Paul is going to look to get that Pavlik fight now and I wouldn't blame him.

**Albo Da Kid** · 12-20-2009, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by Animalistic 5.0

Give me a ****ing break pitty patting is not what should be called called domination. Martinez landed the clean punches and the harder ones. Now I don't remember what exact rounds I gave who but Martinez clearly won the fight and the most Williams deserved was a draw. I had 7-5 Martinez watching it live and 8-4 after the replay.

8-4??? what are you smoking dude? Tell me which rounds Martinez won and which rounds Williams won... I really wanna hear this because I honestly believe you're talking out of your ass

watch the fight again and score it realistically this time. If you can't score it on your own, then just follow Ledderman's card.

It was a clear 7-5 win for Williams though. You really have to watch the fight carefully to understand.

**Derranged** · 12-20-2009, 03:09 AM

Two things.

1. That one judge who only gave ONE ROUND to Martinez. That pretty much ruined it all.

2. There is a strong bias against Williams on this site, particularly from the hispanic posters.

I had Williams winning 115-113, but I could see it being scored 115-113 Martinez or 114-114.

Hope to see a rematch.

**Albo Da Kid** · 12-20-2009, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by Spray_resistant

That would be fine as it was close......I hope they fight again, but maybe Paul is going to look to get that Pavlik fight now and I wouldn't blame him.

I really wanna see them fight again as well and this time I believe the fight can go either way especially if......Martinez trains harder and shows more workrate or Williams fights with more precision and improves on his defense(or at least learns how to beat that counter-right hand)

I think Williams already got an idea of how to beat Martinez this time around though. I think hje will adjust like he adjusted to the second Quintana fight and make this fight easier for him this time around

**Albo Da Kid** · 12-20-2009, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by Derranged

2. There is a strong bias against Williams on this site

Oh yea definitely man...I hate when posters stop behaving like boxing fans and resort to little kid tactics just because they don't like a fighter or for the fact that they like to see him loose

This board would be a lot more pleasant if we behaved more like boxing fans and told things like they really were.

**Spray_resistant** · 12-20-2009, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by Albo Da Kid

I really wanna see them fight again as well and this time I believe the fight can go either way especially if......Martinez trains harder and shows more workrate or Williams fights with more precision and improves on his defense(or at least learns how to beat that counter-right hand)

I think Williams already got an idea of how to beat Martinez this time around though. I think hje will adjust like he adjusted to the second Quintana fight and make this fight easier for him this time around

It will probably go the same way as last time as they both did what they do best. Martinez hits, moves, counters with that striaght left and hooks. PWill looks to swamp you and wear you down with his workrate. The speed and movement disrupted Paul's work rate considerably. Just compare between that fight and Winky Wright, he maybe threw almost half the punches as he did in that fight and it was because he did not have a stationary target to hit and had to go after him.

Why do they say Martinez was robbed??