Sugar Cane Mosley got out boxed by Cotto, don't forget it

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  • Dorian
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    #131
    Originally posted by -Hyperion-
    pfft im one of the biggest hatton haters..........hatton won that fight in rounds.....not even that close......he got his ass kicked late but he didnt lose.....
    i do like collazo though, he seems very natural to me.......and he clearly won 7 rounds vs berto.......

    and the cosme rivera knockdown was not flash at all.....

    pacquiao has the "i want to cry" face everytime he gets cut.....agapito sanchez??
    Does he retreat? Take knees? Quit? He fights on like a warrior, same goes for MAB and Morales and all these other fighters.

    Every time Cotto gets a cut or something, he's done..

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      #132
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Clottey is a top 5 WW. There is nobody at WW right now beating Clottey easy.

      And, I disagree with you bro. Clottey would beat Berto. Berto has to many mental lapses on defense. And, I don't see him hurting Berto.
      Mayweather, Shane, Berto would all beat Clottey but not stop him of course.

      Williams(if he can make 147) would win a 120-108 over Clottey...

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        #133
        Originally posted by -Antonio-
        All the bull**** aside...

        I do think Berto can win the fight.

        Hell I think he can win the fight EASY.

        People tend to forget how the Cotto fight went. They seem to forget that Margarito is easy to hit anyway. He's so easy to see coming that a guy wiith diminished reflexes will not suffer the consequences. As for Berto, he has a missile for a right hand, and I expect that missle to land quite often on Mosley's head.

        It really comes down to Berto's punch resistance. He'll be able to have success clinching Mosley early on because Shane seems to get frustrated when his opponent is the one initiating clinches instead of vice versa. If he so happens to take Mosley's best punch then what does he have to fear? I cannot see anyway in my mind that Mosley wns a decision unless he puts Berto down.
        when has mosley ever allowed clinches against anyone who wasnt way bigger than him?? forrest was a big as welter, mayorga was a ****ing pig.....

        margarito was supposed to be the most physical welterweight and mosley handled him on the clinch.......mosley is strong as ****......

        berto is just too hittable to beat mosley....

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          #134
          Originally posted by Dorian
          Does he retreat? Take knees? Quit? He fights on like a warrior, same goes for MAB and Morales and all these other fighters.

          Every time Cotto gets a cut or something, he's done..
          he fought 9 rounds with a cut against clottey......won 3 of the last 4 rounds and left with his belt.... .......so much for being done....

          pacquiao settled for a draw instead of fighting 1 more round and oing to the scorecards....
          even the great morales has stopped fighting when he knew he was done.....

          i understand you like berto a lot, but dont come up with bs

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            #135
            Originally posted by Dorian
            Mayweather, Shane, Berto would all beat Clottey but not stop him of course.

            Williams(if he can make 147) would win a 120-108 over Clottey...
            P-Will is the only one who would easily beat Clottey at WW. But, that if Paul can make it.

            Bro I think you are overrating Berto. You can not put him in line quite yet with Shane and Mayweather man. As of right now Clottey beats him. If Berto shows he can hang with the elites in January. I might concede to you. But, until that day. Clottey>Berto. Berto has not proved it yet.

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              #136
              Originally posted by -Hyperion-
              when has mosley ever allowed clinches against anyone who wasnt way bigger than him?? forrest was a big as welter, mayorga was a ****ing pig.....

              margarito was supposed to be the most physical welterweight and mosley handled him on the clinch.......mosley is strong as ****......

              berto is just too hittable to beat mosley....
              That may be the case, but I just don't see how Mosley will dominate him quickly and knock him out like some say.

              I said it before, I always liked Shane and I wouldn't be surprised if he does win, but I don't see him having a flawless victory here or at least without Andre having his moments in the fight.

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                #137
                Originally posted by Dorian
                Does he retreat? Take knees? Quit? He fights on like a warrior, same goes for MAB and Morales and all these other fighters.

                Every time Cotto gets a cut or something, he's done..

                This is what i was saying in my own words.

                Okay he looked like **** in one fight against a tough durable opponent that had only 1 loss and then a top 5 FOTY type of fight with Collazo that can rock anybody. Collazo can make anyone want to brawl with him. Berto is def taking less punishment than Cotto did in the same age.

                Torres, Corley, Judah, Pacquiao, Margarito, Clottey..3 of those guys are not exactly ATG's and we know how tough they were for Cotto..forget about what Pacquiao, Margarito and Clottey did to Cotto.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  P-Will is the only one who would easily beat Clottey at WW. But, that if Paul can make it.

                  Bro I think you are overrating Berto. You can not put him in line quite yet with Shane and Mayweather man. As of right now Clottey beats him. If Berto shows he can hang with the elites in January. I might concede to you. But, until that day. Clottey>Berto. Berto has not proved it yet.
                  I am not overrating him, I just think he could beat Clottey and will have a shot with Shane, Look at my previous post, I said I wouldn't be shocked if Mosley beats him, I just don't see this as a shutout win for Mosley without Berto having his moments.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Dorian
                    That may be the case, but I just don't see how Mosley will dominate him quickly and knock him out like some say.

                    I said it before, I always liked Shane and I wouldn't be surprised if he does win, but I don't see him having a flawless victory here or at least without Andre having his moments in the fight.
                    Let bet homie. I got the sugar man.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                      when has mosley ever allowed clinches against anyone who wasnt way bigger than him?? forrest was a big as welter, mayorga was a ****ing pig.....

                      margarito was supposed to be the most physical welterweight and mosley handled him on the clinch.......mosley is strong as ****......

                      berto is just too hittable to beat mosley....
                      Size could have been a factor, Mayorga was 170. I still think Berto initiating the clinches , might keep Shane from getting off as much as say a straight forward walking Margarito.

                      It's funny because that is definitely his weakness, falling into clinches with his hands down. It's a weakness I'm not sure will hurt him as much aganst Shane as say a Cotto or Clottey.

                      I mean my pick will most likely still be Mosley by KO because I don't trust Berto's punch resistance or his lack of defense.

                      But as I said before if Berto just so happens to take Shane's best right hand then I just don't see a Mosley victory.

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