Pacquiao should RUSH Mayweather, ala Hagler when he fought HEARNS

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  • El Castigador
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    #21
    Roach at times is a ****ing idiot...........

    Manny is getting his ass beat whether he wants to BUM RUSH or be Ali...

    He will lose to Mayweather.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #22
      pac gotta put on smart pressure. if he tries to outfeint pbf in a staring contest he will lose.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #23
        Originally posted by King Burner
        Roach at times is a ****ing idiot...........

        Manny is getting his ass beat whether he wants to BUM RUSH or be Ali...

        He will lose to Mayweather.
        yeah... if not for comments like this I would listen to your show..

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        • them_apples
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          #24
          Originally posted by Kball15
          Idk what the hell Roach is thinking saying this needs to be a tactical fight.

          Does he think Pacquiao stands a chance trying to outbox Mayweather.

          Did ANYBODY else see the last 8 rounds of the COTTO fight, where Cotto didnt seem to have much trouble backing up and avoiding punishment? I mean, Cotto was GONE at that point and he still stole some of those later rounds.


          Mayweather does everything Cotto can do backing up, and then some.


          Pacquiaos best chance is to go for activity, and try to outwork Mayweather. Set up a high body shot tally, and the start going for the head.

          Pacquiao has to be very smart though obviously, and look out for the pot-shot straight rights and counters.

          I'm sorry guys, im really pulling for Pacquiao in this fight, but the more i look at it the more i see a tremendously difficult uphill battle for Pacquiao.

          I got Mayweather by Spanking at this point. Havnt really anaylzed the fight yet, but i hope Roach doesnt blow this fight in the gym.

          PACQUIAO CANT ****ING OUTSMART AND OUTBOX FLOYD MAYWEATHER. It'll NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!!
          He was walking around like he was the terminator against Cotto. When Pacquiao decided to Catch Cotto he could. easily. Pacquiao is very fast on his feet, even quicker than Mayweather.

          Mayweather will potshot, and by doing so he might get outwork and swarmed. Unless he can pull a SRL and run all 12 rounds while landing shots (he doesn't seem to throw while moving) then he can beat Pacquiao.

          Mayweather will not throw combos or exchange because by doing so he is initiating a fight with Pacquiao, and fighting with Pacquiao get's you knock out.

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          • Kball15
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            #25
            Originally posted by them_apples
            He was walking around like he was the terminator against Cotto. When Pacquiao decided to Catch Cotto he could. easily. Pacquiao is very fast on his feet, even quicker than Mayweather.

            Mayweather will potshot, and by doing so he might get outwork and swarmed. Unless he can pull a SRL and run all 12 rounds while landing shots (he doesn't seem to throw while moving) then he can beat Pacquiao.

            Mayweather will not throw combos or exchange because by doing so he is initiating a fight with Pacquiao, and fighting with Pacquiao get's you knock out.
            Mayweather has a tendancy to go back to the ropes willingly because he is so good off of them. He can counter and block pretty easily it seems.

            Pacquiao should take full advantage of that though, and pound his arms and waist

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            • T-97
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              #26
              If Pac is too careless though, he could get hurt. Mayweather isn't a huge puncher, but he's fast, accurate, and isn't pillow fisted as it is. If he gets tagged with a lot of hard rights hands and left hooks early it might give Mayweather an early edge. Also, i'd guess Mayweather would be smart enough to keep him turning to avoid the shots, or clinch to stop him.

              Of course, I can see your idea. Jump all over Floyd early to take away his comfort zone, it might disrupt him enough that by the time he regains his rhythm, Pac could be a few rounds up. But, I'd take the former option to be more likely.

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              • jdn
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                #27
                I agree with Kball. It'll be difficult for Pacquaio to win this one and almost impossible if he makes it a tactical fight imo. He gotta do something real crazy like brawl or something to win this, kinda like what Hatton did on Tszyu.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Kball15
                  Idk what the hell Roach is thinking saying this needs to be a tactical fight.

                  Does he think Pacquiao stands a chance trying to outbox Mayweather.

                  Did ANYBODY else see the last 8 rounds of the COTTO fight, where Cotto didnt seem to have much trouble backing up and avoiding punishment? I mean, Cotto was GONE at that point and he still stole some of those later rounds.


                  Mayweather does everything Cotto can do backing up, and then some.


                  Pacquiaos best chance is to go for activity, and try to outwork Mayweather. Set up a high body shot tally, and the start going for the head.

                  Pacquiao has to be very smart though obviously, and look out for the pot-shot straight rights and counters.

                  I'm sorry guys, im really pulling for Pacquiao in this fight, but the more i look at it the more i see a tremendously difficult uphill battle for Pacquiao.

                  I got Mayweather by Spanking at this point. Havnt really anaylzed the fight yet, but i hope Roach doesnt blow this fight in the gym.

                  PACQUIAO CANT ****ING OUTSMART AND OUTBOX FLOYD MAYWEATHER. It'll NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!!
                  So now Cotto spent 8 rounds boxing backwards and actually won some rounds? Funny, I saw Cotto run for dear life for about 4 or 5 rounds and lose every single except MAYBE one while still taking massive punishment.

                  Pac has to use effective, calculating, aggression, if you want a blueprint watch Duran in the first Leonard fight. I know Leonard tried to brawl so it's not a perfect comparison but watch what Duran did in that fight, how he made sure to stay in Leonard's face without exposing himself with reckless punches. He will have to outwork Floyd but he cannot just bumrush him recklessly.

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                  • Kball15
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    So now Cotto spent 8 rounds boxing backwards and actually won some rounds? Funny, I saw Cotto run for dear life for about 4 or 5 rounds and lose every single except MAYBE one while still taking massive punishment.

                    Pac has to use effective, calculating, aggression, if you want a blueprint watch Duran in the first Leonard fight. I know Leonard tried to brawl so it's not a perfect comparison but watch what Duran did in that fight, how he made sure to stay in Leonard's face without exposing himself with reckless punches. He will have to outwork Floyd but he cannot just bumrush him recklessly.
                    I think all 3 judges gave cotto the 10th round or something like that, might have to verify that.

                    And obviously im not saying he jsut run wild and throw everything and anything. He shoudl of coarse be careful and smart, but he has to fight an agressive gameplan. he has to stick his head in Mayweathers chest, something Pacquiao hasnt ever really done before.

                    he has to either be out of range for the straight right, or close enuf that Mayweather can counter any of this shots effectively

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                    • Mr. Chago
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      pac gotta put on smart pressure. if he tries to outfeint pbf in a staring contest he will lose.
                      Agree, but smart pressure may become frustration after not being able to land and getting countered, though PAC's footwork is going to give a lot of problems to PBF, still I see really hard for PAC wining, I can see a lot of ways PBF can win over PAC and not the other way around...

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