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    FAO Non SUPER Biased/Racist Floyd Fans

    What do you guys feel Pac's game plan should be against Mayweather? What can he do to win this fight? Here's what I think he could do..

    Originally posted by 2501
    How can Pacquiao be effective against Floyd?

    As I alluded to in the content above, Floyd's fight plan consist of doing as much as possible defensively and doing just enough offensively to win a fight. Well, thats been the fight plan against dangerous opponents and Pacquiao is a dangerous opponent.

    The key for Floyd is to make Pacquiao as hesitant as possible and Floyd does that by countering his opponents and striking unexpectedly with a right lead. When Floyd is in "the zone", he'll lean forward face first with his hands down his side. This is when he knows he has his opponent scared to throw a punch, scared to be aggressive and he capitalizes with potshots scoring his points.Now, would Pacquiao fall victim to this?

    I believe he CAN. Why? We saw some of this in both Marquez fights. In the rounds Marquez clearly would dominate, he was able to because of his timing and counter punching. During these periods, Pac would just be bouncing and fainting, hesitant to throw, but when he did Marquez would read it a mile away and would counter or Marquez would take advantage of Pac's inactivity and strike first with combinations. This is how and when Floyd would be scoring.

    So back the question, how can Pacquiao be effective against Floyd?

    By doing what he did to break Marquez's rhythm. Get brave, come to terms with the fact that he WILL be tagged and begin his unpredictable barrage of punches. What Pac can do that DLH, Hatton and Marquez didn't do was throw more than 2-3 punches on a consistant basis. We saw DLH throw these wack ass body shots when Floyd was against the ropes. But DLH was smothering himself throwing arm punches. Hatton would just run at Floyd and either he or Floyd would start hugging. Marquez tried throwing, but he was just too slow swiping at empty air and he just became hesitant and limited his offensive output.

    Pac has to continue his offense, not allow himself to fall into that mental trap that Floyd can set. He needs to keep Floyd on the defensive all night. Shoot 2 punches from one angle, throw 3 more from another angle, dip and get out. Floyd cannot be completely defensive if it continues that way, he'll have to open up and become more offensive minded or he WILL lose because he is too defensive and not offensive enough to counter Pac's aggression. Make Mayweather work.

    If Pac is throwing 3-4 punch combos, Floyd is blocking 3 of them, but only comes back with a pot shot, Pac is going to score rounds because he's dictating it. If Floyd DOES open up, Pac's hands are fast enough to slip more punches in. But the key is not to linger long enough for Floyd to catch him. 1,2,3,4 and dip out and Floyd WILL tag him. If Pac can manage not being stunned, he will be very successful through out the fight, but...

    Can Floyd hurt/stunn Pac?

    "Cotto threw everything at Pac and didn't hurt him"

    True, but Cotto didn't land anything Pac didn't see coming. We all know its the shots you dont see coming that put the sandman to work. Marquez and Larios stunned him with shots Pac just didn't see. Floyd very well has the ability to create this kind of situation because of his counter punching and fast hands. Pacquiao just has to be prepared for this which is obviously is very hard to do.

    So to summarize, Pac must keep Floyd in a defensive state constantly through out the fight. He cannot win by being cautious and hesitant trying to pick his shots. That's Floyd's game and he's pretty damn good at it. The more defensive Floyd gets, the less offensive he becomes and Pacquiao needs to take advantage of that.
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    He just needs to hope he can get Mayweather to fight. He needs to make Mayweather exchange with him. And he needs to be busy, VEEEEEEERY busy.

    I think Mayweather is going to win though. I see Pac getting frustrated.

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    • El Castigador
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      #3
      Floyds not coming to fight..Hes coming to pot shot and move man.....

      Whenever "Pac tries to fight" Hell be clinched and take some inside punches from Floyd....

      "Whenever Floyd uses his potshot style...it isnt a fair fight and hes immpossible to beat"

      Jim Lampley

      Floyd is going to circle him and keep him on the outside with jabs..lead rights (that wont miss) and leaping lefts...when Pac does FINALLY get close..hell be clinched...refs seperate...rinse....repeat.

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      • Allucard
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        #4
        Originally posted by 2501
        What do you guys feel Pac's game plan should be against Mayweather? What can he do to win this fight? Here's what I think he could do..
        He can't do ****. On the other hand Mayweather just needs to be in shape to win. Don't expect to see the same Pacquiao either. The blows Pacquiao has taken throughout his career will make up for the difference in age.

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          upinurgirlsguts
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          #5
          Originally posted by King Burner
          Floyds not coming to fight..Hes coming to pot shot and move man.....

          Whenever "Pac tries to fight" Hell be clinched and take some inside punches from Floyd....

          "Whenever Floyd uses his potshot style...it isnt a fair fight and hes immpossible to beat"

          Jim Lampley
          BUURRNEERRRR! *shakes head with a smile and crosses arms*

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          • El Castigador
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            #6
            Originally posted by 2501
            BUURRNEERRRR! *shakes head with a smile and crosses arms*
            HAHAHAHAH thats hilarious for some reason......lol.

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            • Allucard
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              #7
              Originally posted by King Burner
              Floyds not coming to fight..Hes coming to pot shot and move man.....

              Whenever "Pac tries to fight" Hell be clinched and take some inside punches from Floyd....

              "Whenever Floyd uses his potshot style...it isnt a fair fight and hes immpossible to beat"

              Jim Lampley

              Floyd is going to circle him and keep him on the outside with jabs..lead rights (that wont miss) and leaping lefts...when Pac does FINALLY get close..hell be clinched...refs seperate...rinse....repeat.
              Yep, and to me it's magic in the happening. It will decide the best fighter of a generation. I can't WAIT.

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              • KittenFlaps
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                They both just need to be the best versions of themselves. Pac needs to be wily, throw clever shots from strange angles, keep busy.

                Floyd needs to be sharp and catch Pac coming in then get out of the way. Let Pac move forward, Floyd can keep on the back leg.

                If they both come ready to do what they both naturally do this could be a Leonard v. Duran. It could also be a really, really boring fight.

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                • S.G.
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                  Floyd has been dragged into fights before. I think it's integral for Pac to go to Mayweather's body early and often. We know he has the power to take some wind out of Floyd and the body is a more reliable target than his head. I do wish Pacquiao would develop a bit more diversity in his body work though - maybe Roach will work on that going in to the fight.

                  I think what's most important for Pacquiao, though, is to make Mayweather look ineffective. We all know Pacquiao is going to outwork Floyd and be the aggressor, which is very helpful when going to the cards anyway, but it could be undone due to Mayweather's counter punches looking and being so much more effective than Pacquiao's flurries and combination punching. The solution to this would be to get his hands up quicker... Pacquiao's static upperbody when on the approach/retreat from an attack and tendency to leave his head wide open has been a concern of mine for a long time, and it could definitely be his undoing against someone with the reflexes, speed and accuracy of Mayweather. He needs to rectify this desperately, which could force Mayweather to engage more once he realises his single punches aren't going to win him the rounds.

                  Basically I think he just has to do what he does best and look to overwhelm Mayweather with his unrelenting whirlwind offense, but maybe just put his mind before his instincts this time and iron out some technical flaws and bad habbits. Mayweather won't be able to keep as dynamic an opponent as Pacquiao at arm's length all night so Pacquiao will get opportunities to land; he just has to make sure he's dishing out more than he's recieving.

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                  • Ray*
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                    Okay, Manny needs to be manny...Throw a lot with bad intentions but he also have to be ready for PBF stamina-wise, If manny throws the way he did against cotto from different angles with speed and high energy then he has a better chance of landing from the southpaw stance that Mayweather struggles against sooo much.

                    He needs to avoid getting clinch also because Mayweather loves to take advantage of that and manny could do that by not getting too close to PBF, Watch out for the elbows and make sure he lets the referee know about the use of the elbows that Mayweather love to use to push opponents off.

                    And thing is he needs to make sure that he doesnt miss too much when he throw because not only would Mayweather take advantage of that but you get tired out when you punch thin air.

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