Why does Hopkins get props for beating Pavlike but Mayweather gets none for Maruqez?

[letsgobrady]

hopkins can do no wrong people praise him for everything he does and the only reason he was not favored to win against pavlik was because he lost to calzaghe and no one likes to give calzaghe any credit so instead of givin calzaghe his props people would just rather assume hopkins was washed up

[Njord777]

Bhop is old. He was picked to lose, some thought by KO. And Pavlik had fought and won at SMW and LHW before.

Will these whinyass "double standards against Mr boat buyer" threads ever end?

I'm not here much anymore. There's two weird super-biased camps here right now. I mean, I guess it's always like that but it's too much for me.

Here we go:

Manny Pacquiao is a rough, high spirited Phillipino boxer who got lucky when the U-S-OF-A came crashing into his life via god-send trainer Freddie Roach. The guy pumped him full of good ol' American steroids; just a little at first, that coupled with his new teaching gave him the ability to gain steadily after his early KO setbacks.

Now a Nike lead marketing campaign has had him selectivley fight boxers that would make him look good and build up to a fight like this. He's being fed strength syrum at night by intravenous injection. He's taking endurance pills, adding oxygen directly to his blood.

Roach has him on controversial psychedelics that, in combination with nightly recordings he listen to nightly, have made him a blood-thirsty, cannibalistic little guy who is a venerable pinata of performance enhancing ****tails. The train is going to come to a horrible, embarrassing derailment against the pure, unbridled athleticism and glory of the best fighter of our generation, our lord and savior, St. Floyd Mayweather, Jr!

The other:

Floyd Mayweather is, in truth, a closet ****sexual. Hiding this lifestyle has caused great strain on his mental state- he's unsure of himself, unconfident, and largely scared of what others will think. He uses money, throwing it around to impress, to hide his insecurities.

In the ring, he's petrified. Though he's in good physical shape and trains hard, he often spends nights unable to sleep, scared, seeing visions of his opponent hurting him. He wakes up many mornings and vomits out of constant stress. He hates fighting. In the ring he pot-shots and moves because he wants to win but is always, eternally, fearful.

Manny Pacquiao is going to beat this spineless, weak, boxer with his overwhelming animalistic power and size. He'll hurt him, make him bleed, cry, and embarrass him before putting this example of all the weaknesses of modern superstar athletes forever to sleep.

[Michael Hall]

I'm not here much anymore. There's two weird super-biased camps here right now. I mean, I guess it's always like that but it's too much for me.

Here we go:

Manny Pacquiao is a rough, high spirited Phillipino boxer who got lucky when the U-S-OF-A came crashing into his life via god-send trainer Freddie Roach. The guy pumped him full of good ol' American steroids; just a little at first, that coupled with his new teaching gave him the ability to gain steadily after his early KO setbacks.

Now a Nike lead marketing campaign has had him selectivley fight boxers that would make him look good and build up to a fight like this. He's being fed strength syrum at night by intravenous injection. He's taking endurance pills, adding oxygen directly to his blood.

Roach has him on controversial psychedelics that, in combination with nightly recordings he listen to nightly, have made him a blood-thirsty, cannibalistic little guy who is a venerable pinata of performance enhancing ****tails. The train is going to come to a horrible, embarrassing derailment against the pure, unbridled athleticism and glory of the best fighter of our generation, our lord and savior, St. Floyd Mayweather, Jr!

The other:

Floyd Mayweather is, in truth, a closet ****sexual. Hiding this lifestyle has caused great strain on his mental state- he's unsure of himself, unconfident, and largely scared of what others will think. He uses money, throwing it around to impress, to hide his insecurities.

In the ring, he's petrified. Though he's in good physical shape and trains hard, he often spends nights unable to sleep, scared, seeing visions of his opponent hurting him. He wakes up many mornings and vomits out of constant stress. He hates fighting. In the ring he pot-shots and moves because he wants to win but is always, eternally, fearful.

Manny Pacquiao is going to beat this spineless, weak, boxer with his overwhelming animalistic power and size. He'll hurt him, make him bleed, cry, and embarrass him before putting this example of all the weaknesses of modern superstar athletes forever to sleep.

LMAOOO!

I don't know you, so I'm assuming that post was sarcasm. Good read.

[MANGLER]

I'm not here much anymore. There's two weird super-biased camps here right now. I mean, I guess it's always like that but it's too much for me.

Here we go:

Manny Pacquiao is a rough, high spirited Phillipino boxer who got lucky when the U-S-OF-A came crashing into his life via god-send trainer Freddie Roach. The guy pumped him full of good ol' American steroids; just a little at first, that coupled with his new teaching gave him the ability to gain steadily after his early KO setbacks.

Now a Nike lead marketing campaign has had him selectivley fight boxers that would make him look good and build up to a fight like this. He's being fed strength syrum at night by intravenous injection. He's taking endurance pills, adding oxygen directly to his blood.

Roach has him on controversial psychedelics that, in combination with nightly recordings he listen to nightly, have made him a blood-thirsty, cannibalistic little guy who is a venerable pinata of performance enhancing ****tails. The train is going to come to a horrible, embarrassing derailment against the pure, unbridled athleticism and glory of the best fighter of our generation, our lord and savior, St. Floyd Mayweather, Jr!

The other:

Floyd Mayweather is, in truth, a closet ****sexual. Hiding this lifestyle has caused great strain on his mental state- he's unsure of himself, unconfident, and largely scared of what others will think. He uses money, throwing it around to impress, to hide his insecurities.

In the ring, he's petrified. Though he's in good physical shape and trains hard, he often spends nights unable to sleep, scared, seeing visions of his opponent hurting him. He wakes up many mornings and vomits out of constant stress. He hates fighting. In the ring he pot-shots and moves because he wants to win but is always, eternally, fearful.

Manny Pacquiao is going to beat this spineless, weak, boxer with his overwhelming animalistic power and size. He'll hurt him, make him bleed, cry, and embarrass him before putting this example of all the weaknesses of modern superstar athletes forever to sleep.

You 1 of the good guys as far as boat buyer fans go, so you can see past this kinda **** homey. The fight will tell the tale. **** what the trainers or anybody else says.

This bitchass **** about how all of planet earth conspires against Mr boat buyer is ****** tho.

[DoubleMM]

Bhop is old. He was picked to lose, some thought by KO. And Pavlik had fought and won at SMW and LHW before.

Will these whinyass "double standards against Mr boat buyer" threads ever end?

Pavlik fought @ 166 because he was forced too in the Taylor rematch. He then moved back down to 160 after Taylor then had to jump another 10 lbs to fight Hopkins. I have no idea what you're talking about.

I fail to see how public opinion on who will win the fight has anything to do with credibility. Maybe it has to do with Mayweather being held to a higher standard? Possibly?

[djtmal]

hopkins can do no wrong people praise him for everything he does and the only reason he was not favored to win against pavlik was because he lost to calzaghe and no one likes to give calzaghe any credit so instead of givin calzaghe his props people would just rather assume hopkins was washed up

bingo...i'm glad you said this and not me...hopkins fans overpraise him for beating people he's supposed to beat...fights he clearly loses (calzaghe) there's a million and one excuses, or he was robbed...

for the record, i didn't give hopkins much credit for beating pavlik, nor does floyd get much credit for beating marquez...

[razor.thin]

he shouldnt get any credit, neither should. both frauds.

[MANGLER]

Pavlik fought @ 166 because he was forced too in the Taylor rematch. He then moved back down to 160 after Taylor then had to jump another 10 lbs to fight Hopkins. I have no idea what you're talking about.

I fail to see how public opinion on who will win the fight has anything to do with credibility. Maybe it has to do with Mayweather being held to a higher standard? Possibly?

Pavlik has fought at SMW and won in the past. He has fought at LHW and won in the past. I'm talkin bout the fact that dude was not out of his depth in terms of goin up to fight Bhop. It was a legit fight.

And WTF you mean 'public opinion has nothin to do' wit credibility? That **** makes no sense homey. Hence the term 'credibility,' you askin in this thread why people give credit to Bhop for Pavlik, but not your boy for JMM. Got nothin to do wit this 'higher/double standard' bull****. People saw Pavlik facin Bhop at LHW as a legit fight. People saw Mr boat buyer facin JMM at WW as a ****in disgrace. That's why Bhop gets props and your boy doesn't.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Because Mayweather has a big mouth and everybody hates him. There is no other logic behind it.

[DrewWoodside]

Dude that is easy
the reason is cause pavlik started his career at 160 and went up 10 pounds
JMM started at 126 and moved up 20 to fight mayweather

Also, Pavlik was the heavy heavy favorite in that fight. JMM was always expected to lose and be overmatched.