Comments Thread For: Roach Talks Pacquiao/Steroids, Mayweather's Weight, More

[HaglerSteelChin]

the Nevada's System is the same as the governments...which
meets the standard...

But is not up to par with other sports, and even the state of California has a new rigid system for MMA fighters and boxing, and later 65 fighters were caught. The Nevada system has no random testing, no blood work, and no system to detect even designer steroids. For example, Shane Mosley was tied to the balco scandal and never was caught cheating with the Nevada system.

[renren40]

But is not up to par with other sports, and even the state of California has a new rigid system for MMA fighters and boxing, and later 65 fighters were caught. The Nevada system has no random testing, no blood work, and no system to detect even designer steroids. For example, Shane Mosley was tied to the balco scandal and never was caught cheating with the Nevada system.

it is what it is....maybe an upgrade will come soon ...
but fighters should not be crucified prematurely because a testing system is not up to date and because he is winning and because SR. is running his mouth...

SR even apologized and stated that Pacquiao is legit.

[renren40]

people are saying PAc is roiding because of how is knocking people out...

TBH i dont think it's the hardest thing in the world to knock out (or TKO)Hatton, Cotto, or DLH...even the guys he was KO'ing prior to those fights all were able to be knocked out.

I mean damn ...it is his job ... he trains to knock guys out...

He goes heavy on hooks and uppercuts in training...

And his punch that is partial uppercut part hook to the chin....that's what's killing em...

im not saying i could do it...

but if you train a decade to perfect these KO punches....then you will look flawless in the ring..

TRAIN HARD FIGHT EASY

[renren40]

people are saying PAc is roiding because of how is knocking people out...

TBH i dont think it's the hardest thing in the world to knock out (or TKO)Hatton, Cotto, or DLH...even the guys he was KO'ing prior to those fights all were able to be knocked out.

I mean damn ...it is his job ... he trains to knock guys out...

He goes heavy on hooks and uppercuts in training...

And his punch that is partial uppercut part hook to the chin....that's what's killing em...

im not saying i could do it...

but if you train a decade to perfect these KO punches....then you will look flawless in the ring..

TRAIN HARD FIGHT EASY

What I don't understand is Bob Arum's silence on this...

He's not sticking up for his fighter..

If I was Pac...

I might pull a Floyd and go to self promote/Golden Boy

[TOBYLEE1]

What I don't understand is Bob Arum's silence on this...

He's not sticking up for his fighter..

If I was Pac...

I might pull a Floyd and go to self promote/Golden Boy

What happens is the perception of ppl that don't support Pac or others see that as he gone up in weight he has become stronger and kept his speed. There is no comparison in when a fighter has been able to do this and be so dominant as they go up in weight.

Yes they have been boxer that have gone up in weight but not this dominant. It can happen but in this era of peformance enhancing substances it does raises questions. Either Pac is a freak of nature, can drain himself to a lower weight to exploit his natural physical advantages or he is on some substance. Then Ariza did no favors in saying that Pac doesn't know what he is given to him.

IMO both fighters should just take the test as long that it is supervise properly and it would be an dead issue. Saying that the blood is gonna mentally affect Pac 6 weeks before the fight is a poor excuse since the guy has bled in a fight and made fighters bleed and he was not affected by it. If he comes out clean and wins there will be no excuses from the Floyd camp and we will know without a doubt who is the P4P fighter in the world and on of the greatest in our era

[renren40]

RJJ went up in weight and kicked ass...

Manny has always been 5'6.5 in height (except childhood of course)
and weighed in the 140's for a while ...

He has gone up in muscle but he is still not that big ...

He's just winning like he is supposed to...

[TOBYLEE1]

RJJ went up in weight and kicked ass...

Manny has always been 5'6.5 in height (except childhood of course)
and weighed in the 140's for a while ...

He has gone up in muscle but he is still not that big ...

He's just winning like he is supposed to...

That is true but RJJ wasn't dominating as he did at 160 and 168. At HW he boxed his way to victory. Armstrong boxed his way to victory in the higher weights. Even Sugar Ray Robinson a dominant fight at WW met his biggest challenges at MW. Not saying that it cannot happen but its the perception of some ppl and I do understand their point a view.

Who would say that in this in age they would find a fighter loading up their gloves in such a big fight, so as you see anything is posible.

[fcastro1]

why is everyone suprised by pacs power. first to ko morales, first fighter below 154 to stop delahoya,kd the 3 amigos 11 times alltogether, kod sasakul as a teen.

[renren40]

why is everyone suprised by pacs power. first to ko morales, first fighter below 154 to stop delahoya,kd the 3 amigos 11 times alltogether, kod sasakul as a teen.

exactly what im saying ... about time i had some backup here ... i was getting gang******

[jtiger78]

Manny pac is going to lose this fight then hes going to try to save the world and be exposed in a money scandal and get exposed for being a crooked politician then hes going to become a trainer and his best fighter will go 19-4.