Jermain Taylor is he done? When should a promoter walk away?

[ИATAS]

Witht hat being said is he done or just risking injury? I think he still can fight and win in this tournament.....Lefty

I honestly think he's very close to being done. His punch resistance isn't very good, that he had the best chin in boxing before, but he shouldn't be getting KO'd by Froch and Abraham.

He still has the skills to beat a lot of guys at 168, just not on the elite level anymore. So by that he's not completely shot or "done," he's just done being an elite fighter.

I give him almost no chance at winning and I favor Andre Ward heavily to beat him. I think jermain survives the full 12 rounds though. I would also favor Kessler to beat him and dirrell as well but if he loses to Ward I don't think we'll see him fight another fight in the tournament.

[El Jesus]

For this fight in particular, Jermaine will give andre some problems, its late in the fight that you dont wonder if jermaine will win or lose, but be able to hang in there. i think about how eddie futch tried to pull the plug on freddie roach and roach continued to fight on and now look at him. jermaine and jermaine alone has to stop, as long as doctors clear him...what can you do?

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

For this fight in particular, Jermaine will give andre some problems, its late in the fight that you dont wonder if jermaine will win or lose, but be able to hang in there. i think about how eddie futch tried to pull the plug on freddie roach and roach continued to fight on and now look at him. jermaine and jermaine alone has to stop, as long as doctors clear him...what can you do?

So you directly relate Parkinson’s isease to boxing? I mean I see people beng punch drunk directly related to boxing. But I think Parkinson’s is a seperate case all together and if he had not fought a single round would still have the ailment. Look at Michael J Fox how many rounds has he fought inside a ring?.....I think Jermain coul dhave other complications related to boxing from too many concusions just Steve Young the famous 49ers QB but I do not think Parkinson’s is directly related to boxing...lefty

[Adamantium]

He suffered from memory loss and concussion in his last fight, he shouldnt be in the ring anymore. He had his chance to shine after beating Hopkins and he let it slip by with one lackluster win after another. He has his health, money and a family, time to move on.

[Njord777]

I don't think AA was the worst possible draw for him. Taylor's main problem is his stamina, so Abraham, with his low workrate, was a good style match up in many ways.

In the programme Showtime made (Fight Camp 360 I think it was called) DiBella agrees to go to Germany and Denmark because he was asked by Taylor to go for the biggest paydays.

I don't know if Taylor is done, but I don't think he performed that well last time out. He just seemed to be fighting in first or second gear the whole night. Against Froch he worked his jab very well and threw some impressive combinations. Maybe that's because Froch has a poor defence, but Abraham has a good one, but I don't think that's the whole reason. Taylor maybe has a chance against Kessler, because I think that's probably a technical fight where they would both be trying to work off of the jab. But Ward is a bit too good and will probably dominate.

The most worrying aspect of his recent defeats is that they've come in the 12th round. A fight such as Prescott-Khan may look devastating, but you are actually a lot better off health-wise getting KTFO in 53 seconds than you are getting beaten right at the end of 12 tough rounds.

Honestly though so much of boxing is mental, I think we know that's where Jermain Taylor's armor was *****ed. For whatever reason, since fighting Hopkins, first his choice of opponents was lacking, and then he just performed increasingly poorly since the Pavlik fights. He's stuck on 1st and 2nd gear, sure, he's just not the fighter he was- or could have been.

He's been knocked out several times, and getting put to sleep at the end of the fight is even more devastating, like you said, because you don't have faith ever again of a perceptibly 'safe' point in the fight.

[Adamantium]

So you directly relate Parkinson’s isease to boxing? I mean I see people beng punch drunk directly related to boxing. But I think Parkinson’s is a seperate case all together and if he had not fought a single round would still have the ailment. Look at Michael J Fox how many rounds has he fought inside a ring?.....I think Jermain coul dhave other complications related to boxing from too many concusions just Steve Young the famous 49ers QB but I do not think Parkinson’s is directly related to boxing...lefty

Ali suffers from parkinson syndrome which is not the same as the disease. Im not sure if Roach has the disease or the syndrome.

[FLY TY]

Witht hat being said is he done or just risking injury? I think he still can fight and win in this tournament.....Lefty

against who?


my cousin told me the other day that dibella promoted some fighter a few years back that ended up dying at the hospital after a fight....he said he'd never go through that again....

i don't know why it's so hard to believe the guy is genuinely concerned for the future well being of JT....by walking away, dibella is walking out on money also.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

He suffered from memory loss and concussion in his last fight, he shouldnt be in the ring anymore. He had his chance to shine after beating Hopkins and he let it slip by with one lackluster win after another. He has his health, money and a family, time to move on.

Hve you looked at Jemain's resume? After he fought Hopkins the first time he fought him again correct check this out my friend and tell me about lack luster performances...

Undisputed Middle Weight Champion Benard Hopkins 7/16/05

Rematch Bernard Hopkins 12/3/05 less than 5 months rest

Former 154lb Title Holder and Top 5 P4P at the time Winky Wright 6/17/06 6 months rest

Tough Fighter and highly touted when they fought Kassim Ouma 12/9/06 less than 6 months rest

Former 154lb title holder Corey Spinks 5/19/07


Hard hitting #1 contender Kelly Pavlik 9/29/07 4months rest

Undisputed Middle Weight Champ Kelly Pavlik 2/16/09 5 months rest after being KO'd

Former SMW Champ Jeff Lacy 11/15/08 9 months longest lay off

SMW Champion Carl Froch 4/25/09 5 months rest

Former MW Title Holder and tournament favorite Arthur Abraham 10/17/09 6 months rest

In 4 years 3 months he fought 2 Undisputed MW Champions had 2 rematches with them, Fought 5 other former or current title holders and overall 3 P4P ranked fighters including Winky Wright whom no one wanted to fight at the time he took the fight with him....To say he has lack luster performances was a terrible statement. i think the pressure put on him by the press and the fans for knock outs was what put him in trouble with Pavlik in the first fight....Lefty

[ИATAS]

^^when he said lackluster I think he just meant he stunk up the joint meaning he didn't excite anyone, didn't fight with much heart, etc. Besides the Winky fight. the spinks fight was probalby one of the worst fights I've ever seen in my entire life and I remember his trainer yelling at him for not doing anything. Ouma was another forgettable fight and of course he got Ko'd after that (although that was an exciting fight).

He most definitely has fought great fighters though, cant deny that. But since Hopkins, he really hasn't looked that great since (and even then he didn't look great, but that was more so cuz of hopkins making him look bad).

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Ali suffers from parkinson syndrome which is not the same as the disease. Im not sure if Roach has the disease or the syndrome.

Most people with Parkinson's disease are described as having idiopathic Parkinson's disease (having no specific known cause). There are far less common causes of Parkinson's disease including genetic, toxins, head trauma, cerebral anoxia, and drug-induced Parkinson's disease.

Parkinson plus syndrome
they are the same my man....Lefty