fitefandotcom accuses Pac of roids!

[El Castigador]

Look at Mayweather's 1st fight at 147. This was against Mitchell, see how soft he looks? Look at his back in general. Note: Mayweather weighs 146 here.



Now look at how ripped Pacquiao is, also consider that he's moving up from 135. That's very impressive but you also have to be a little skeptical.

Great examples.....

I think hes on something.

he went from getting rocked by Oscar Larios to bullying a 155 Pound Cotto all over the ring.

[HandSpeed303]

I try not to use the visual test because the PEDs today are so beyond that (as opposed to the nineties and eighties when it was much more obvious) but yes, I question Manny's camp - particularly Roach who has worked with several roid freaks. Most notably, Lucia Rijker who was as obvious as it gets. Freddie has his own demons anyway. Regardless, it's not out of the realm of possibility. And I wouldn't go off Manny's looks. Nor would I go off testing, positive or negative.

Well, okay then. I get what you are saying. I hope he is not, but if he is, he will no longer gave my support.

It does kinda suck that we may never know.

[The Underboss]

i don't want to sound like a pac hater or anything, but that ariza guy kinda looks su****ious...

now please, i'm a *******, i'm not saying that Manny is taking steroids and that he knows he's taking it, but that guy (ariza) looks very su****ious to me....

[NYU Alum]

Ariza was tied to lots of people from the BALCO fall out google him

Hook us up with a link. Don't send us on wild goose chases, please.

[HandSpeed303]

Great examples.....

I think hes on something.

he went from getting rocked by Oscar Larios to bullying a 155 Pound Cotto all over the ring.

Man you are talking about a one armed Manny. The Manny of today is totally different. Not cause of drugs, but casue he is a more complete fighter...Drugs or not.

One problem with your debates Burner, you refuse to admit Manny is a better fighter. You think roids have gotten him everything. You should stop think that way. He may infact be on something (I say that cause Im not biased), but to act like he has not improved as a fighter will not be accepted. Not be me at least.

[CrackYourJaw]

he went from getting rocked by Oscar Larios to bullying a 155 Pound Cotto all over the ring.

Nah, but Cotto was drained, right?

Pacquiao weighs damn near the same on fight night now as he did during his last fights at 130, probably around a 4-5 pound difference.

He still has his speed an power because he only weighs 4-5 pounds more and he doesn't have to cut much weight to make 147, 145 or 140.

[The Underboss]

is creatine considered part of steroids?

[Doctor_Tenma]

i don't want to sound like a pac hater or anything, but that ariza guy kinda looks su****ious...

now please, i'm a *******, i'm not saying that Manny is taking steroids and that he knows he's taking it, but that guy (ariza) looks very su****ious to me....

This is sad, that most have to talk like this. Especially here on Boxingscene. No different from the people I'm subscribed to on Youtube. Everytime they make a video analysis on Pacquiao and they're picking against him...everything starts like this, "I know I'm gonna get alot of hate emails, people calling me crazy on my Youtube page, but I think so and so will beat Pacquiao because...". That's sad.

[NYU Alum]

Exactly, does that say that Ariza himself doesnt know what he's giving pac?

Two-Five,

It doesn't concern you when the conditioning coach - NOT THE NUTRITIONIST - says "I am responsible. Pac has no idea what he takes"?

Forget accusations. All bull**** aside. This is 2009/2010. For an athlete to have no idea what is going into his body? That strikes me as unusual. Highly.

And, yes. The author of that article was right. Barry Bonds did get skewered for claiming he didn't know what he took.

[larry x]

So now you just picking through post and co-signing huh. Memphis stand up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no my poitn is..i think manny is a great fighter and a genuine person..but i think he was some shady people in his camp trying to milk him for all he's worth....konz and ariza ..ariza has already been linked to the balco situation