Who has more talent and skill then FMJr.??

[Adamantium]

Nobody. But from all the fighters currently Amir Khan comes the closest.

I hope you are joking?

[Syf]

I don't how I got to all of these hypothetical versions of both fighters but at their sizes in reality they do have some similarities because of their mindsets and several minor differences because of their contrasting physical makeups.

So... Floyd and Wlad are cautious.. defensive types of fighters that move and hit, with the same methodical mindset of chipping someone down.. this is your position

Seems to me those are actually the more minor parts of this equation, and the large dissimilarities are far more glaring than any similarities they might share.

There are lots of defensive fighters.

Kevin Johnson... That cat is cautious..works off the jab, and looks for counter right hands. I'm betting he would move and hit if he could but he just doesn't have the legs for it. Would you say his style is like Floyd's, and by proxy (in your mind), Wlad's?

Or, what about Paulie Malignaggi? he fits the defensive jabber, moving and hitting mold. Chipping someone down too, or shooting for decision. Would you say he's like Mayweather and Wlad?

[Adamantium]

this so called ''unsurmountable skill'' of floyd mayweather will dissapear as soon as he hits 35 and gets ko'd

well actually, right after pac

I can see Floyd having another 4-5 fights then permanently retiring. I cant really see him getting koed by anyone but you never know.

[Spray_resistant]

So... Floyd and Wlad are cautious.. defensive types of fighters that move and hit, with the same methodical mindset of chipping someone down.. this is your position

Seems to me those are actually the more minor parts of this equation, and the large dissimilarities are far more glaring than any similarities they might share.

There are lots of defensive fighters.

Kevin Johnson... That cat is cautious..works off the jab, and looks for counter right hands. I'm betting he would move and hit if he could but he just doesn't have the legs for it. Would you say his style is like Floyd's, and by proxy (in your mind), Wlad's?

Or, what about Paulie Malignaggi? he fits the defensive jabber, moving and hitting mold. Chipping someone down too, or shooting for decision. Would you say he's like Mayweather and Wlad?

Kevin Johnson has on air been compared to Floyd though nowhere near the caliber and only has half the equation right which is not getting hit......and yes Paulie is somewhat similar to both in my mind but to a lesser extent because there is not much emphasis on a lead right and accumulation of punishment late like Floyd and Wlad.

[Rorschach™]

Skills wise, no one.

But when it comes to talent, nobody beats RJJ.

[hugh grant]

Who has more skill and talent???

There are people like Pac who have more ability, or abilities that PBF dont have. Whether Pac has MORE talent and skill i dont know for sure.
But Pac certainly can do things PBF cant do.

[Dynamite Kid]

No one. That's the fuckin truth.

That's why I like Floyd, not because he drives nice cars or swaggers around with chains etc, but because he is skilled, talented, he backs up his words and he trains harder and smarter than anyone in the game.

What a fighter, and none of the bull**** on these boards can detract from the fighter he is.

Back up his words

He says he will punish a guy and takes them 12 boring rounds, he says he will fight anyone.

Most talented fighter ever does not need a robbery of a decision to beat J L Castillo. Most talented fighter does not get a Boxing lesson for 4/5 rounds against Zab Judah or a have a close fight with a 34 year old DLH.

[Syf]

Kevin Johnson has on air been compared to Floyd though nowhere near the caliber and only has half the equation right which is not getting hit......and yes Paulie is somewhat similar to both in my mind but to a lesser extent because there is not much emphasis on a lead right and accumulation of punishment late like Floyd and Wlad.

Well if your original point was essentially that they are both defensive fighters, with methodical mindsets, then I agree

I thought you were saying they were carbon copies of each other, or some jazz, which just struck me funny

There are people like Pac who have more ability, or abilities that PBF dont have. Whether Pac has MORE talent and skill i dont know for sure.
But Pac certainly can do things PBF cant do.

This is true...

Pac to me can cover ground quicker than Floyd, and leverages his shots alot better in collaboration with his footspeed and footwork...

Also his heart, and ferocity, is world class. But that's not really a skill, per se.

[versatech]

PBF - Skills
RJJ - raw talent
PAC - Heart

[revs1227]

pacquiao???????