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    #11
    Originally posted by Shadows
    I think he could do well. He was at super flyweight before Darchinyan and I've read he gets up to 130+ pounds in between fights, so I don't the extra weight would be a burden. Plus it's only three pounds to begin with.

    The thing is, how will his power go up? Will he have the pop to keep a strong fighter like Agbeko off him?

    What are your thoughts?
    I think he has the size, skills, and, speed to be very competitive with anybody at bantamweight. I think his power is going to suffer a little. But, I still think it will be solid enough where other fighters would have to respect his power.

    In his last fight. He fought Conception who was way bigger than him. And, Nonito still hurt him early with a body shot. So his power would still be solid IMO.

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      #12
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      I think he has the size, skills, and, speed to be very competitive with anybody at bantamweight. I think his power is going to suffer a little. But, I still think it will be solid enough where other fighters would have to respect his power.

      In his last fight. He fought Conception who was way bigger than him. And, Nonito still hurt him early with a body shot. So his power would still be solid IMO.
      nonito is an extremley big flyweight, really, he should be bantam, and he will be, he could go up as high as feather, im sure

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        #13
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        I think he has the size, skills, and, speed to be very competitive with anybody at bantamweight. I think his power is going to suffer a little. But, I still think it will be solid enough where other fighters would have to respect his power.

        In his last fight. He fought Conception who was way bigger than him. And, Nonito still hurt him early with a body shot. So his power would still be solid IMO.
        Yeah, those are some good points.

        I'd like to see him take on Agbeko and Moreno the most.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Shadows
          Yeah, those are some good points.

          I'd like to see him take on Agebko and Moreno the most.
          Donaire-Moreno would be a good fight. Moreno is so underrated. Even in his own division he is underrated. When people talk about the bantamweight division. They Hasegawa, Agbeko, Mares. But, nobody really talks about Moreno

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            #15
            Originally posted by Chew BackAtacha
            nonito is an extremley big flyweight, really, he should be bantam, and he will be, he could go up as high as feather, im sure
            He is a big Flyweight... You think he could go up to featherweight? He has the size... I don't know if his power and chin would be good that weight. I am not saying he can't. He probably would be effective. But, I don't think he should rush it. He should take it slow make sure his body gets comfortable that weight.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Shadows
              I think he could do well. He was at super flyweight before Darchinyan and I've read he gets up to 130+ pounds in between fights, so I don't the extra weight would be a burden. Plus it's only three pounds to begin with.

              The thing is, how will his power go up? Will he have the pop to keep a strong fighter like Agbeko off him?

              What are your thoughts?
              Here is the thing, Donaire has looked like a big puncher against generally average competition and i dont think thats his strongpoint, other than Vic, who is smaller than him, i dont see much that suggests that his pop would be what takes him further when he moves up in weight. it was his superb boxing ability is what got him in the p4p rankings in the first place. Lately hes been sitting down on his punches and trying to just knock people the *** out and thats not going to work moving up IMO. he has to box.

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                #17
                Originally posted by El Jesus
                Here is the thing, Donaire has looked like a big puncher against generally average competition and i dont think thats his strongpoint, other than Vic, who is smaller than him, i dont see much that suggests that his pop would be what takes him further when he moves up in weight. it was his superb boxing ability is what got him in the p4p rankings in the first place. Lately hes been sitting down on his punches and trying to just knock people the *** out and thats not going to work moving up IMO. he has to box.
                Yes when he goes up in weight he would have to box. I don't think he will have the power to KO top level fighters. But, I think he would have the power to get respect. But, he won't be brawl against Agbeko. He would to use his footwork, speed, and skills to beat top level bantamweights.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Donaire-Moreno would be a good fight. Moreno is so underrated. Even in his own division he is underrated. When people talk about the bantamweight division. They Hasegawa, Agbeko, Mares. But, nobody really talks about Moreno
                  To be fair man, 118 itself is underrated.

                  I like Moreno. I think he has everything.....well, except power. I haven't watched his latest fight yet, but I'm going to download it tonight.

                  I think so too. It's probably not a fight for everyone, but I think the matchup of Donaire's quickness and skills versus Moreno's smooth footwork and movement and southpaw stance would be interesting.
                  Last edited by Shadows; 12-13-2009, 08:04 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by El Jesus
                    Here is the thing, Donaire has looked like a big puncher against generally average competition and i dont think thats his strongpoint, other than Vic, who is smaller than him, i dont see much that suggests that his pop would be what takes him further when he moves up in weight. it was his superb boxing ability is what got him in the p4p rankings in the first place. Lately hes been sitting down on his punches and trying to just knock people the *** out and thats not going to work moving up IMO. he has to box.
                    Good points.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by El Jesus
                      Here is the thing, Donaire has looked like a big puncher against generally average competition and i dont think thats his strongpoint, other than Vic, who is smaller than him, i dont see much that suggests that his pop would be what takes him further when he moves up in weight. it was his superb boxing ability is what got him in the p4p rankings in the first place. Lately hes been sitting down on his punches and trying to just knock people the *** out and thats not going to work moving up IMO. he has to box.
                      Donaire is a terrific puncher, but the problem is, he fights throwing one punch at a time. That **** ain't gonna fly against top level competition.

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