Comments Thread For: Timothy Bradley vs Victor Ortiz May Be Explored

[Allucard]

Ortiz starts off by jabbing with his righ and snaps that big headed ******'s head back and then drops Bradley by the 5th round and flurrys him by the 7th or 8th round and KO's Bradley...don't forget Ortiz used to spar toe to toe with pacquiao and gave him a sweat

Ortiz is a quiter. Bradley is the real deal. Look at them both. It's obvious one of them can't fight for ****. It's very rare people like Ortiz being able to fight.

[tito_bandito]

is that all your argument states is that Ortiz is a quiter? lol That means that he's automatically the one to lose? Physically Ortiz has the advantage with power and speed...he needs to work on his feet and how to throw his left hand and with that being done Bradley will get KTFO...Ortiz did drop a solid chin oponnent three times...By the looks of it we will see more of Ortiz pretty soon since he has to drop back to JWW

[millcitymauler]

If Goldenboy is really that confident in Ortiz then they should get Mayweather Sr to train Ortiz and have Danny Garcia as assistant trainer and improve his foot work and how to control that left hand as he did with ODLH...if not then I suggest Ortiz to face Urango or rematch Maidana...I hate how ppl say in every damn thread that Ortiz is gonna quit...it's old already and you know he's not that bad of a fighter...he just had ONE bad night...don't forget he's only 22 years old...he has many years ahead of his carreer...

People are questioning Ortiz's heart for one reason, and one reason alone...he quit. Adversity reveals not only a man's true character, but a man's TRUE NATURE as well. Nobody knows how Ortiz will react next time, but for now, he needs to be properly re-built, and I think this weekend was a decent first step. All of the amature accolades and claims of future stardom can't make every "next big thing" pay off at the betting window, and this is especially true for these prodigious talents. I couldn't find Panchito Bojado or Ricardo Williams right now with a map...some guys aren't cut out for this business when things get tough, and sending Ortiz out right now against any of the top 5-7 JWW's would be disastrous. I'm not hating on the kid, but his handlers shouldn't be suprised if over-ambitious matchmaking turns Ortiz into the next big bust.

[tito_bandito]

Not to say that he can't handle the competition but I think that he does need one more tune up fight before taking on the top of the JWW...I think Ortiz is capable of beating Bradley but to be secure he needs to fight someone like Urango or Mike Alvarado...

[SeanTayla21]

Warning = "Quick Reply" that went Long:

I can understand what the reasonable opposition to this fight are saying. His will power as a fighter is in question due to the fact that he has literally quit a fight. That being said, there are variables.

First and foremost, why? According to an article that was seen on here in recent days, he cites a family matter from the night before the fight as the main reason why he was not himself. To add to that, when Max Kellerman interviewed him before the fight last night, his response was to the effect of "That wasn't even me in there last time".

Now secondly, is it true? I am as positive as the fact that the Sun will rise tomorrow, that a large amount of people who post on these boards, are not mentally capable of comprehending the idea that Ortiz has been, and continues to insinuate as his reason for quitting the fight with Madiana. (I do apologize to those who feel that they are unjustly included in this grouping)

What Ortiz makes it sound like, is that he had some level of revelation that night before the fight, where words and thoughts were expressed between him and his loved ones that should not have been at that time, and because of this, he was left in an extremely humbled state. Such a state whereas one not only questions the most recent events that have led to that exact moment but also the known events of the immediate future.

So what does that all mean in layman's terms? It means that Ortiz put his life into question of his own accord and was unable to resettle himself before the fight, which led to his nonchalantness throughout and after the bout. Once again, that is what he has been trying to imply since that night. Do I believe him though? I am not sure whatsoever.

It is convincing between the post fight interview immediately following the bout, all the way to the pre-fight interview last night with Kellerman, as he definitely maintained the appeal of someone whom I have already described as having a Real personal issue at an inopportune time.

If this is the case and I am correct in my assertion, then I have no doubt that he is Beyond capable of not only rebounding, but actually attaining the level of greatness that GB and so many others have predicted for him. However, if I am being mislead and he in fact was mentally stable and simply quit the fight because the going got tough, then as a majority of you have already said, "Once a quitter, always a quitter".

For those of you who are skeptical, please try to understand that there is an enormous difference between the self-inflicted philosophical debate that I have referenced versus the relatively simple (though arguably more challenging) mental battle that an ass-whoopin' generates. In short, if what I assess is true then the likelihood of Ortiz quitting a bout ever again is slim to none.



All that Jazz and I must say that even if he is going to be okay, he definitely needs one more solid victory in order to fully convince himself that all of this critical talk is nothing but the BS of the sport. And if that is the case, Bradley is surely not that next fight as I presume Ortiz is simply not ready at the moment.

Lastly, for those of you who saw his fight, please tell me what you thought of his movement as a whole? Between the consistent feet spacing, slightly arched back and natural flow of head movement, I can say in earnest that Victor Ortiz encompasses the true beauty of a Boxer. On the other hand though, his technique once engaged is questionable to say the least.

Someone suggested he work with Mayweather Sr if he were actually slated to fight Bradley. Though I cannot condone Mayweather as the clear cut best fit for him, I do agree that he needs a change of pace at this point in order to reach that next level. A next level however, that really may not be attainable for him at all. Only time will tell.

[Iceta]

Bradley would put a clinic on that fragile pretty boy.

[el malo]

Na too soon for ortiz. But I can see ortiz beating kahn.

[Catrin]

Khan should be next!!! Tim has earn that shot!!! Think big DesertStorm...go after khan he wants big fights this is as big as it gets... I like staples center!!!!

[-DSG-]

id rather see victor ortiz fight amir khan.timmy should fight someone else.

[-Hyperion-]

i think people dont realise how much bigger ortiz is, and timmy is not a puncher..........timmy is the better fighter, but ortiz is a dangerous fight....