Should JMM be held to the same standards that Calzaghe is held to?

[Shadows]

**** Paul Williams and **** Shane Mosley, how about that for a thread?

I'm not going to lie, this made me laugh.

[DLT]

Now I have a lot more respect for JMM than I do Calzaghe, and he is one of my favorite fighters. I also think his willingness to step up to the plate against fighters at the top of their game are way bigger than that of Joe. But he has reached a point in his career of where he is just fighting for money it seems like now by calling out Hatton which is understandable.

The overall point of this thread though is to point out how his two marquee wins at 135 are starting to lose a lot of their luster. Diaz was never really that good to begin with as everybody saw when he lost to Campell. And then he goes on to gets beat tonight by a fighter who punches as soft as Ice La Fox's glossed lips. This is pretty much the same type of thing that Joe is getting bashed for with Kessler, Lacy, and to a certain degree RJJ.

And after how impressive Bradley fought tonight (and even I can't stand the fact that he doesn't have power to go with his talent) I think people should demand a JMM-Bradley fight if they care about JMM going out like a great fighter before his career is over with.

I disagree because I hold Paulie & Nate in much higher regard than you obviously do. Also, JMM has done a ton more than Calzaghe and both Diaz & Joel were the 2 best or 2 of the best at the time of the fight. Thats legit

[egreezy]

No its not as bad because Diaz moved up in weight to fight Malignaggi. But it wouldn't even be a discussion if he fought the #1 guy in Campbell at the time. GB made a gamble in thinking Paulie was finished and it came back to bite them bad.

[Iceta]

I disagree because I hold Paulie & Nate in much higher regard than you obviously do. Also, JMM has done a ton more than Calzaghe and both Diaz & Joel were the 2 best or 2 of the best at the time of the fight. Thats legit

Lacy and Kessler were too when Joe fought them. And I already made the point in my thread about JMM's body of work being better than Calz****gaghe's.

[dde91]

Was/is Cotto top 10 P4P? Yes he is!

Is Juanma is on his way? yes he is, now STFU


Damn fool always trying to denigrate fighters


How about we talk about martinez exposing Williams again and getting robbed?

Williams won 7-5 and if you didn't See that then YOU ARE ****IN BLIND.

[Iceta]

Williams won 7-5 and if you didn't See that then YOU ARE ****IN BLIND.

Don't pay any attention to him. That fool is bringing up something that is totally off topic and ruining this thread.

[DLT]

Lacy and Kessler were too when Joe fought them. And I already made the point in my thread about JMM's body of work being better than Calz****gaghe's.

Yeah but thats not the problem with Calzaghe. The problem is he only fought the 2 old guys after that and thought he did something. JMM fought Floyd and now wants other big fights against elite guys. Thats the difference. JMM fought Floyd, would fight Pac again in a heartbeat, would fight Hatton or Khan, and so on

[Iceta]

Yeah but thats not the problem with Calzaghe. The problem is he only fought the 2 old guys after that and thought he did something. JMM fought Floyd and now wants other big fights against elite guys. Thats the difference. JMM fought Floyd, would fight Pac again in a heartbeat, would fight Hatton or Khan, and so on

But Hatton and Khan are not elite fighters. Bradley is.

[Kevin Jesus]

I think that Marquez' biggest wins should be against Pacquiao. He should have gotten the nod in that rematch and he should be undefeated as we speak. Well of course except for that Mayweather loss which is forgivable because of the weight class.

[DLT]

But Hatton and Khan are not elite fighters. Bradley is.

Yeah but the difference is that I dont think he's one & done. Like he definatly wants to get paid but they are still pretty big names in the process. I still think that if he was to beat them then he would finish it by fighting a Bradley. Thats my point. He deserves to get paid though and its not like he's doing it by fighting bums or anything. Hatton was the real deal and alot of people think Khan is about to be