Should JMM be held to the same standards that Calzaghe is held to?

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  • Iceta
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    Should JMM be held to the same standards that Calzaghe is held to?

    Now I have a lot more respect for JMM than I do Calzaghe, and he is one of my favorite fighters. I also think his willingness to step up to the plate against fighters at the top of their game are way bigger than that of Joe. But he has reached a point in his career of where he is just fighting for money it seems like now by calling out Hatton which is understandable.

    The overall point of this thread though is to point out how his two marquee wins at 135 are starting to lose a lot of their luster. Diaz was never really that good to begin with as everybody saw when he lost to Campell. And then he goes on to gets beat tonight by a fighter who punches as soft as Ice La Fox's glossed lips. This is pretty much the same type of thing that Joe is getting bashed for with Kessler, Lacy, and to a certain degree RJJ.

    And after how impressive Bradley fought tonight (and even I can't stand the fact that he doesn't have power to go with his talent) I think people should demand a JMM-Bradley fight if they care about JMM going out like a great fighter before his career is over with.
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    #2
    STFU, why always try and denigrate fighters instead of saying what they did good?


    **** Paul Williams and **** Shane Mosley, how about that for a thread?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
      STFU, why always try and denigrate fighters instead of saying what they did good?


      **** Paul Williams and **** Shane Mosley, how about that for a thread?

      You forgot to mention how overrated Paul Williams is.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Iceta
        Now I have a lot more respect for JMM than I do Calzaghe, and he is one of my favorite fighters. I also think his willingness to step up to the plate against fighters at the top of their game are way bigger than that of Joe. But he has reached a point in his career of where he is just fighting for money it seems like now by calling out Hatton which is understandable.

        The overall point of this thread though is to point out how his two marquee wins at 135 are starting to lose a lot of their luster. Diaz was never really that good to begin with as everybody saw when he lost to Campell. And then he goes on to gets beat tonight by a fighter who punches as soft as Ice La Fox's glossed lips. This is pretty much the same type of thing that Joe is getting bashed for with Kessler, Lacy, and to a certain degree RJJ.

        And after how impressive Bradley fought tonight (and even I can't stand the fact that he doesn't have power to go with his talent) I think people should demand a JMM-Bradley fight if they care about JMM going out like a great fighter before his career is over with.
        jmm should go back to 135 lbs. diaz should go back to 135 lbs.

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          #5
          I think Marquez is overrated on here myself...

          Diaz is a good fighter, Paulie is just a horrible style matchup for him...

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          • Iceta
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            #6
            Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
            STFU, why always try and denigrate fighters instead of saying what they did good?


            **** Paul Williams and **** Shane Mosley, how about that for a thread?
            Dude, what the hell? This isn't even a thread to bash JMM, because like I said I'm a big fan of the guy. But even I admit that he is lacking a conclusive win over a great prime fighter. See, I'm a real fan of the sport unlike you who thinks Cotto and Juan Ma are future P4P stars without producing impressive results against A level fighters. And this thread is totally irrelevant about Mosley and Williams. So why you bringing those two up?

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            • Ch@mpBox@PR
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              #7
              Originally posted by Iceta
              Dude, what the hell? This isn't even a thread to bash JMM, because like I said I'm a big fan of the guy. But even I admit that he is lacking a conclusive win over a great prime fighter. See, I'm a real fan of the sport unlike you who thinks Cotto and Juan Ma are future P4P stars without producing impressive results against A level fighters. And this thread is totally irrelevant about Mosley and Williams. So why you bringing those two up?
              Was/is Cotto top 10 P4P? Yes he is!

              Is Juanma is on his way? yes he is, now STFU


              Damn fool always trying to denigrate fighters


              How about we talk about martinez exposing Williams again and getting robbed?

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              • Iceta
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                #8
                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                Was/is Cotto top 10 P4P? Yes he is!

                Is Juanma is on his way? yes he is, now STFU


                Damn fool always trying to denigrate fighters


                How about we talk about martinez exposing Williams again and getting robbed?
                Oh, you're mad at me because you think I'm trying to down play JMM and Calzaghe's careers. LMAO. You bring nothing to this thread but simple mindedness.

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                • street bully
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                  #9
                  The Diaz Marquez fougt is a lot better tan this Diaz. Hell the Diaz from the last fight was a lot better. Marquez ruined him.

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                  • Iceta
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by street bully
                    The Diaz Marquez fougt is a lot better tan this Diaz. Hell the Diaz from the last fight was a lot better. Marquez ruined him.
                    I think there is some truth to that, but remember that Diaz was only on a one fight win streak against Katsidis after he lost to Campell. Katsidis has gotten better, so Diaz was definitely better when JMM fought him, but still beatable.

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