Who has a Better boxing IQ? Toney, Hopkins or Mayweather

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  • Evil Abed
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    #41
    Originally posted by Adamantium
    Just because Toney is undiscplined and at times unfocussed, doesnt mean he hasn't got a high boxing IQ. Its hard to use all your skills if you are vastly overweight. You are confusing lack of discipline with IQ and they are not the same thing. Toney defence is far superior to Mayweathers, have you seen his fights with Barkely and Robinson?
    I think Mayweather and Toney's defense are comparable.

    I still think you can make a good argument for Toney having the best Ring IQ.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #42
      "Lights Out." Just watch the Nunn fight again.

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        #43
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        "Lights Out." Just watch the Nunn fight again.
        Great fight.

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        • AllEyesOpen
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          #44
          Originally posted by thephantom5
          Out of three who's more knowledgeable in that ring? Who could get away with having no one in there corner?
          The all got a lot of fights under their belt, so i'd say it's pretty even. the question should be who has the better shoulder roll.

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          • mazdaru
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            #45
            Originally posted by ИATAS206
            I'd say Hopkins, then mayweather then toney.

            The reason I say hopkins is because floyd relies heavily on his reflexes and natural athleticism, hopkins doesn't have nearly the amount of natural abilities that floyd does, so hopkins has too be trickier/craftier/smarter to win his battles.

            Toney has great ring IQ as well, but he's shown a few instances of lack of judgment or bad decision making in the ring whereas I never really see Floyd or Hopkins do anything really ******.
            are youtalking about roy jones or flloyd. your post makes no sense. floyd relies on much more than his reflexes and natural ath. he relies on all of his gifts
            Last edited by mazdaru; 02-11-2010, 06:32 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              I'd say Hopkins, then mayweather then toney.

              The reason I say hopkins is because floyd relies heavily on his reflexes and natural athleticism, hopkins doesn't have nearly the amount of natural abilities that floyd does, so hopkins has too be trickier/craftier/smarter to win his battles.

              Toney has great ring IQ as well, but he's shown a few instances of lack of judgment or bad decision making in the ring whereas I never really see Floyd or Hopkins do anything really ******.
              I agree. You can't put it much better than that.

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              • boxasmash
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                #47
                Hopkins...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by boxasmash
                  Hopkins...
                  ...Why?

                  Please Explain.

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                  • Pugilistic™
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206
                    I'd say Hopkins, then mayweather then toney.

                    The reason I say hopkins is because floyd relies heavily on his reflexes and natural athleticism, hopkins doesn't have nearly the amount of natural abilities that floyd does, so hopkins has too be trickier/craftier/smarter to win his battles.

                    Toney has great ring IQ as well, but he's shown a few instances of lack of judgment or bad decision making in the ring whereas I never really see Floyd or Hopkins do anything really ******.
                    Nice post. I agree with this.

                    All three fighters have amazing boxing IQ's though.

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                    • GreatestIam
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                      #50
                      Good ass question I know the answer aint Tyson.. Id take Hopkins though he is a trainer within himself and would school both Toney and Mayweather in the ring or sparring!

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