Freddie Roach getting exposed over and over again.

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    #41
    I don't agree with what the video is saying, but I think there is a grain of truth in it. He did fight a drained DLH and Floyd didn't. He fought a changed Hatton and Floyd fought an undefeated one. You can say Floyd had an advantage fighting Hatton at 147, but Hatton cuts from like 180 so it shouldn't make much of a difference. Is Manny the P4P King right now? I think Floyd's better but I don't think it would be right for him to just come back and assume the #1 P4P ranking. So I have no qualms with Manny being ranked at the top. Manny's a terrific fighter either way, all the two examples in the video really say is that it isn't fair to compare the way the two fighters won(which should be obvious anyway).

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      #42
      One thing I don't understand is the hate about the Manny vs. Oscar fight. Oscar chose everything for that fight: weight, gloves, purse. The only thing that Manny complained about was the split which went 68% in Oscar's favor. Most of the people here make it out to be that Manny was the one who chose everything.

      It's just that Oscar thought that he was gonna destroy a guy much smaller fighter than him.

      The only win that needs a small asterisk is the Cotto fight which was at a catchweight. Other than that, his fights with Oscar and Hatton are credible.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Ray`
        Dont think that was true but i would check the facts and report back to you.
        I'll check again too but morales, barrera, DLH, Cotto, Hatton, oh wait Marquez I wasn't exactly on a downturn sooooo

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          #44
          Barrera wasn't on a down turn he was just out of his prime.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
            why does everybody make it seem like Pacquiao MADE De La Hoya go down in weight?????? Pacquiao dominated Diaz at Lightweight and Oscar had his fight with Steve Forbes at 150 pds a couple months before. THEN Oscar saw a BIG opportunity in Beating Pacquiao because he beats up all the mexicans. He's the one that OFFERED to fight at 147. NOT PACQUIAO. Oscar thought it would probably be a walk in the park.

            SO it was a backfire on De La HOya. Pacquiao didn't ask for the fight Oscar did. LOL why does everybody say MANNY MADE oscar drop to 147 when he only dropped 3 poundds from his previous fight against forbes. MANNY CAME UP 12 Pounds. EVERYBODY before the fight saw OSCAR as having ALL THE advantages. Now that he got Beat up, they say its' PAC MANS FAULT. ****IN Hypocrites.

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              #46
              Originally posted by gqjohnb
              I'll check again too but morales, barrera, DLH, Cotto, Hatton, oh wait Marquez I wasn't exactly on a downturn sooooo
              Originally posted by gqjohnb
              Barrera wasn't on a down turn he was just out of his prime.


              Ok, Have had a look and Barrera wasnt on a downturn when Pac fought him in their first fight, Morales wasnt in their first fight also but at that stage the WARS between Morales/Barrera must have taken their toll, I would just say pac caught them at the right time.

              Oscar was on the way out, Cotto was on the way down and Hatton is hatton.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Roxas
                Roach is a prick and I respect Manny but many of his wins are questionable.....
                What? Tell me bro what fight did you think it was?....

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                  #48
                  Freddie Roach is my hero.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by dde91
                    why does everybody make it seem like Pacquiao MADE De La Hoya go down in weight?????? Pacquiao dominated Diaz at Lightweight and Oscar had his fight with Steve Forbes at 150 pds a couple months before. THEN Oscar saw a BIG opportunity in Beating Pacquiao because he beats up all the mexicans. He's the one that OFFERED to fight at 147. NOT PACQUIAO. Oscar thought it would probably be a walk in the park.

                    SO it was a backfire on De La HOya. Pacquiao didn't ask for the fight Oscar did. LOL why does everybody say MANNY MADE oscar drop to 147 when he only dropped 3 poundds from his previous fight against forbes. MANNY CAME UP 12 Pounds. EVERYBODY before the fight saw OSCAR as having ALL THE advantages. Now that he got Beat up, they say its' PAC MANS FAULT. ****IN Hypocrites.


                    Yep, The weight had nothing to do with Pac, Oscar was the one trying to prove he could fight Mayweather at 147, He came in against forbes at 150 and looked **** but people gloss over the win and say he looked great even though forbes broke oscar's jaw with his featherfist punches.

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                    • Michael Hall
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                      #50
                      Great vid!

                      I already kinda feel sorry for the Floyd haters. It's gonna be a cold and quiet day on NSB the day after Floyd wins.

                      The haters are gonna complain that there food just don't taste right anymore. Tears will flow without resistance.

                      You just don't bet against a guy like Mayweather. He's too good!

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