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  • Originally posted by NYU Alum View Post
    The previous article was from last year. Here is an updated article from this year.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2009-02-26-usada-hgh_N.htm

    Ceres Nanosciences, which licensed the screening process developed by two George Mason University professors, will receive $65,000 to conduct a six-month study of whether the test can be reliably repeated on dozens of samples. The George Mason researchers, Emanuel "Chip" Petricoin and Lance Liotta, will oversee the study, which is a crucial step because of the large scale on which the test would be used with athletes.

    "We are cautiously optimistic," said Travis Tygart, CEO of USADA, the independent organization responsible for testing Olympic-bound American athletes. "They have developed an outstanding technology. And we're looking forward to helping them develop it further so it can have a practical use in anti-doping efforts."


    There is a blood test for HGH that has been used at the last three Olympics, but it is expensive and no athletes have tested positive.

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    so they're the developing the urine test but there a blood test already existing. so it's not totally untraceable as such?

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    • they should test floyd senior too, i'm 100% he's on drugs.

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      • Originally posted by ThePunchingBag View Post
        A counter article in which a Stanford study reports no athletic boost from taking HGH.

        http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nat...-from-sta.html

        In a comprehensive review of HGH used as a PED (performance enhancing drug) a team at Stanford says that current evidence suggests no anabolic effect for the hormone. (although this paper is called a study, it isn't; it is a review or meta-analysis of past papers)

        Athletes who take human growth hormone may not be getting the boost they expected. While growth hormone adds some muscle, it doesn't appear to improve strength or exercise capacity, according to a review of studies that tested the hormone in mostly athletic young men.

        "It doesn't look like it helps and there's a hint of evidence it may worsen athletic performance," said Dr. Hau Liu, of Santa Clara Valley Medical Center in San Jose, Calif., who was lead author of the review.

        Growth hormone, or HGH, is among the performance enhancers baseball stars Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte were accused of taking in the blockbuster Mitchell Report. Clemens denies using the hormone, while Pettitte admits using it.




        There goes the HGH theory *****s.
        ohhh now that's interesting. well for once steriod is not gonna make you a power punching machine and certainly isnt going to improve your chin

        if it does, then i want one as well....

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        • Originally posted by vErDuGo View Post
          LOL
          You think Filipinos would even lay a finger on all that kind of ****....especially an old school Pinoy from the Barrio like Manny?
          Human Growth Hormone... hahahaha
          ....dont let culture get in the way of reality, these things are available all over the world and even easier access is rendered in 3rd world countries, especially from atheletes looking to push ahead, it would be ****** to think otherwise. i personally dont care about this steroid issue but this is definately a case of "oh well nobody from my race/culture would do it!" thats bull.

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          • Originally posted by ThePunchingBag View Post
            A counter article in which a Stanford study reports no athletic boost from taking HGH.

            http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nat...-from-sta.html

            In a comprehensive review of HGH used as a PED (performance enhancing drug) a team at Stanford says that current evidence suggests no anabolic effect for the hormone. (although this paper is called a study, it isn't; it is a review or meta-analysis of past papers)

            Athletes who take human growth hormone may not be getting the boost they expected. While growth hormone adds some muscle, it doesn't appear to improve strength or exercise capacity, according to a review of studies that tested the hormone in mostly athletic young men.

            "It doesn't look like it helps and there's a hint of evidence it may worsen athletic performance," said Dr. Hau Liu, of Santa Clara Valley Medical Center in San Jose, Calif., who was lead author of the review.

            Growth hormone, or HGH, is among the performance enhancers baseball stars Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte were accused of taking in the blockbuster Mitchell Report. Clemens denies using the hormone, while Pettitte admits using it.




            There goes the HGH theory *****s.
            Thanks, TPB. I enjoy reading articles. In their entirety:

            But the new research has some limitations and sheds no light on long-term use of HGH. The scientists note their analysis included few studies that measured performance. The tests also probably don't reflect the dose and frequency practiced by athletes illegally using the hormone. Experiments like that aren't likely to be conducted.

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            • Originally posted by nyu alum View Post
              thanks, tpb. I enjoy reading articles. In their entirety:

              but the new research has some limitations and sheds no light on long-term use of hgh. The scientists note their analysis included few studies that measured performance. the tests also probably don't reflect the dose and frequency practiced by athletes illegally using the hormone. Experiments like that aren't likely to be conducted.
              hahahahaha he left out that important paragraph...............

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                • From that link it suggests that for Pacquiao to get ANY use from HGH--he would have to combine it with steroids because from that review HGH alone does not increase strength---odd. I wonder how Pacquiao is masking the steroids in his urine tests.

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                  • come on man for thos who say they know people who take hgh and pac shows signs well what is floyd taking or has taken cuz his face at times shows sighns of somethng 'jaw area' im sure pac and floyd both take or have taken performance drugs but lets not act like its any thing new especialy in boxing. stop fooling urselves

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                    • Originally posted by NYU Alum View Post
                      Thanks, TPB. I enjoy reading articles. In their entirety:

                      But the new research has some limitations and sheds no light on long-term use of HGH. The scientists note their analysis included few studies that measured performance. The tests also probably don't reflect the dose and frequency practiced by athletes illegally using the hormone. Experiments like that aren't likely to be conducted.
                      This is a predictable response.

                      So Manny is not just taking HGH, he's taking lots of it, eh?

                      That's much more believable and also much harder to keep incon****uous.

                      Also you left something out.

                      As we pointed out in the Huffington Post, HGH by itself may not be anabolic. There is evidence that the hormone is synergistic with anabolic steroids (or insulin or T4), which means that the effects of these hormones add to each other. Further, we don't know the effects of the drugs on the most genetically gifted athletes - professionals.

                      However, a study is a study. HGH by itself in these doses used in young healthy men does not appear to be an impressive anabolic drug.


                      So unless Manny is using anabolic steroids in conjuction with HGH to which the NASC reports that he is taking no such steroids, then taking HGH by itself provides little athletic enhancement.

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