Mayweather wants olympic style drug testing

[Ray*]

Wow just look at how people own themselves in one threads, this threads shows me the definition of fanboys, when PAC said yes they said yes, when PAC change is tune and offers excuses they did the exact samething....wow

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Wow just look at how people own themselves in one threads, this threads shows me the definition of fanboys, when PAC said yes they said yes, when PAC change is tune and offers excuses they did the exact samething....wow

Exactly why I bumped it. I forgot all about this thread. But I remember everyone being on board.

[IMDAZED]

right, but why did you only say mannys name and not floyd

Because your initial thesis (which has now been chopped into pieces) was about how the USADA wasnt the NSAC. So I pointed out how Manny only gives a **** about the NSAC when he wants to avoid random drug tests.

And if manny didnt come in with the weight penalty, what is to stop floyd from coming in 5lbs overweight, a promise? his word?

That's fine but Manny has a history of doing that. Erik Morales hadn't come in over the limit before but Manny wanted to put in a weight penalty too. What was the excuse for that?

There are steroid tests with or without floyd. Roy Jones, james toney, fernando vargas, even more recently funeka was caught with a banned substance.

Of course. But even past heads of the NSAC have admitted that their testing needs to be upgraded. Badly.

Marion Jones wasnt caught with steroids.

Strange logic considering what you wrote before that. Shane Mosley was never caught either. And Marion Jones wasn't subject to USADA testing until 2004. And she failed miserably in that Olympics.

boxers are getting caught with standardized urine testing.

A lot of them are not.

With the weight penalty, there's no harm no foul. Its simply do what is asked of you.

Really? How about when you make fighters suck themselves down in weight?

Floyd is asking for additional testing, on top of testing. I think theres a difference there.

A difference...but why is it bad?

[Rolling Stone]

I think this proves that Pacquiao has nothing to hide.

this thread is gold....props for bumping this ****e

[Sweet Jesus]

[shogunn]

Because your initial thesis (which has now been chopped into pieces) was about how the USADA wasnt the NSAC. So I pointed out how Manny only gives a **** about the NSAC when he wants to avoid random drug tests.

That's fine but Manny has a history of doing that. Erik Morales hadn't come in over the limit before but Manny wanted to put in a weight penalty too. What was the excuse for that?

excuse? weight penalties are nothing new. And I didnt realize coming in overweight shouldnt be penalized. but from what youre saying, asking for a penalty should be or is frowned upon?

Of course. But even past heads of the NSAC have admitted that their testing needs to be upgraded. Badly.

not to the extremisim of floyds OSTs. blood test, sure, but not every other day. And having someone waiting for you for 5 hours while you rehydrate to pee again isnt waht they had in mind. And why did they need urine? i thought blood was that much superior to urine?

Strange logic considering what you wrote before that. Shane Mosley was never caught either. And Marion Jones wasn't subject to USADA testing until 2004. And she failed miserably in that Olympics.

I could say the same. They only began steroid testing when mosley wasnt caught, just as marion jones

A lot of them are not.

and you know this how?

Really? How about when you make fighters suck themselves down in weight?

What is this supposed to mean? are you telling us manny us sucking floyd down in weight by him coming in at 147? He should be allowed to come in overweight?

A difference...but why is it bad?

clearly some boxers dont want to give blood 3x a week or more, especially the day of the fight. Manny has said BEFORE fighting floyd he doesnt want to give blood the day of or the day before.


Weight penalty - floyd doesnt make weight, he has to pay, like everyone else has. Ask Gozman if he didnt pay. Nothing new here..

Floyds OSTS - on top of standardized tests. redundancy, not everyone agrees with it.

[Ray*]

Exactly why I bumped it. I forgot all about this thread. But I remember everyone being on board.

I just cant believe what am reading!!! But like i said before Whenever Pac leaves boxing or loses then those fans would stay away like they have now in avoiding this thread.

[IMDAZED]

excuse? weight penalties are nothing new. And I didnt realize coming in overweight shouldnt be penalized. but from what youre saying, asking for a penalty should be or is frowned upon?

Weight penalties are to be handled by the NSAC; just like drug testing. But both Manny and Floyd are big enough to add in their own stipulations. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. That was my point. You can't say Floyd should let the NSAC do their job without realizing Manny is guilty of the same thing.

not to the extremisim of floyds OSTs. blood test, sure, but not every other day. And having someone waiting for you for 5 hours while you rehydrate to pee again isnt waht they had in mind. And why did they need urine? i thought blood was that much superior to urine?

These aren't "Floyd's OSTs". They are OSTs period. Top athletes do it time and time again. Lance Armstrong, Michael Phelps, Usain Bolt. So let's stop pretending it's so extreme.

I could say the same. They only began steroid testing when mosley wasnt caught, just as marion jones

They still don't test for what Mosley was caught for. OUCH.

and you know this how?

I know this because of guys like Tommy Morrison who admitted use but was never caught. Because of Bob Hazelton who admitted the same. The aforementioned Mosley. Evander Holyfield. Jameel McCline. The list goes on.

What is this supposed to mean? are you telling us manny us sucking floyd down in weight by him coming in at 147? He should be allowed to come in overweight?

It means that Manny has done these things in the past (Cotto, Morales). What is so hard to understand?

clearly some boxers dont want to give blood 3x a week or more, especially the day of the fight. Manny has said BEFORE fighting floyd he doesnt want to give blood the day of or the day before.

And Floyd understood and tried to compromise, going as far as 14 days. But Manny didn't want to do that either.

Weight penalty - floyd doesnt make weight, he has to pay, like everyone else has. Ask Gozman if he didnt pay. Nothing new here..

Who made Guzman pay? The NSAC or Funeka? There is your answer.

Floyds OSTS - on top of standardized tests. redundancy, not everyone agrees with it.

Redundancy means the same thing. Clearly it's not the same.

[shogunn]

Weight penalties are to be handled by the NSAC; just like drug testing. But both Manny and Floyd are big enough to add in their own stipulations. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. That was my point. You can't say Floyd should let the NSAC do their job without realizing Manny is guilty of the same thing.

So if the NSAC did everything, Floyd would still be fined, but wouldnt stop him from coming in overweight.

Yet if they went through standardized testing, youre telling us manny's A- side meth would slip through the cracks? Roy Jones, james toney, vargas were caught. Mosley wasnt caught, yet jones wasnt either. Both OSTs and Boxing tests were relatively new at that point.

These aren't "Floyd's OSTs". They are OSTs period. Top athletes do it time and time again. Lance Armstrong, Michael Phelps, Usain Bolt. So let's stop pretending it's so extreme.

Im not going to compare a 9 second 40 yard dash to 12 rounds of boxing. One is obviously more punishing than the other. Ill let you decide which one takes that honor.


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hey still don't test for what Mosley was caught for. OUCH.

and you know this how? There was a list available on boxing scene on what they tested for and EPO was one of them.

I know this because of guys like Tommy Morrison who admitted use but was never caught. Because of Bob Hazelton who admitted the same. The aforementioned Mosley. Evander Holyfield. Jameel McCline. The list goes on.

Boxing didnt start testing for roids until 2002. Again, if you want to use these parrallels, Marion Jones, Carl Lewis werent caught.

It means that Manny has done these things in the past (Cotto, Morales). What is so hard to understand?

Mannys not the only person whose had weight stipulations, cant say the same for floyd and OSTs. not hard to understand.

And Floyd understood and tried to compromise, going as far as 14 days. But Manny didn't want to do that either.

And floyd didnt want to comprimise on mannys 20 days. There was a medication involved, GBP even urged floyd to take it. The JUDGE even favored manny.

Who made Guzman pay? The NSAC or Funeka? There is your answer.

25% of Guzman's purse went to Funeka.

[IMDAZED]

So if the NSAC did everything, Floyd would still be fined, but since 50 million is a big purse, it would relatively be amounted to nothing.

This is irrelevant. The point is that the NSAC determines what the fine should be.

Yet if they went through standardized testing, youre telling us manny's A- side meth would slip through the cracks? Roy Jones, james toney, vargas were caught. Mosley wasnt caught, yet jones wasnt either. Both OSTs and Boxing tests were relatively new at that point.

Jones was caught. And they still wouldn't bust Mosley for EPO today. Just facts.

Im not going to compare a 9 second 40 yard dash to 12 rounds of boxing. One is obviously more punishing than the other. Ill let you decide which one takes that honor.

Most PEDs are used for training.

and you know this how? There was a list available on boxing scene on what they tested for and EPO was one of them.

EPO isn't tested by any commission, even the NSAC as Keith Kizer mentioned nearly two months ago - refuting reports that they did.

Boxing didnt start testing for roids until 2002. Again, if you want to use these parrallels, Marion Jones, Carl Lewis werent caught.

Boxing still doesn't test for many steroids.

Mannys not the only person whose had weight stipulations, cant say the same for floyd and OSTs. not hard to understand.

Arthur Abraham has been doing OST for some time now. Not hard to understand at all.

And floyd didnt want to comprimise on mannys 20 days. There was a medication involved, GBP even urged floyd to take it. The JUDGE even favored manny.

Wait...I thought you said that Manny was ok with it as long as it wasn't the day of or day before. Which is it?

25% of Guzman's purse went to Funeka.

Who decided this?