My only comments on Mayweather- Pacquiao..

[carts]

the same guy pac went life and death with...go figure.

life and death with??? cmon...

[Njord777]

I'm banking on two things, Mo**ey Mayweather's inactivity may haunt him. Even though he beat Juanita with ease, and I do believe Mo**ey Mayweather when he said that he was trying to KO Juanita in the last few rounds.

If that's the best effort Mo**ey Mayweather can muster against an undersized opponent, who was clearly there for the pickin', does Floyd have another gear ? I think he does need to find that other gear against PAC.

I'm also banking on PAC getting a jump on the scorecards, if that happens, Mo**ey Mayweather might be forced to take the lead, and PAC has turned out into a decent counter-puncher of late.

Will Mo**ey Mayweather have it in him to take the risks that a fighter has to, when the chips are down ?

Yeah, I can see where your coming from- but I don't agree that Floyd will be the same in terms of ring rust; Marquez was, effectivley, a tune-up for him despite it being against such a skilled boxer. The size difference made it an easy fight for him to get some activity in, and I think he'll be at the best we've ever seen him against Manny. I mean, he's got to put everything he has in- this is the biggest fight for a very, very long time. It could cement legends and finance bank accounts for years to come. It's a must-win. Floyd on his A game, better than ever, would be a scary sight to see against Manny's style if you ask me.

Does that mean that it'll be easy? No, I'm not suggesting it must be. I just mean, if Floyd- theoretically- brought it better than ever before, which is possible, he'll COULD dominate easily.

Now, will Floyd look rusty? Older? Less quick? I don't know. If he does, he could easily lose. I'm taking nothing away from Manny- I'm just remembering more than just his last four fights.

[Kevin Jesus]

life and death with??? cmon...

That is how most people would describe that fight, figuratively speaking of course. They didn't literally go life and death.

[NYU Alum.]

Yeah, I can see where your coming from- but I don't agree that Floyd will be the same in terms of ring rust; Marquez was, effectivley, a tune-up for him despite it being against such a skilled boxer. The size difference made it an easy fight for him to get some activity in, and I think he'll be at the best we've ever seen him against Manny. I mean, he's got to put everything he has in- this is the biggest fight for a very, very long time. It could cement legends and finance bank accounts for years to come. It's a must-win. Floyd on his A game, better than ever, would be a scary sight to see against Manny's style if you ask me.

Does that mean that it'll be easy? No, I'm not suggesting it must be. I just mean, if Floyd- theoretically- brought it better than ever before, which is possible, he'll COULD dominate easily.

Now, will Floyd look rusty? Older? Less quick? I don't know. If he does, he could easily lose. I'm taking nothing away from Manny- I'm just remembering more than just his last four fights.

This is the thing though, the last time you saw Mo**ey Mayweather fight has he gotten better ?

Each time PAC has fought you saw the positive changes. PAC has gotten better, he'll never be the technically skilled fighter that some are, but, the lil bit that PAC has improved is still scary considering his immense talent !

[FLY TY]

I think he was speaking in a P4P sense that Floyd will be slightly better at WW than JMM was for Pac at the lower weights

i understood that...my argument was that the domination by floyd represented a disparity in terms of skill....i didn't see anything in that fight that made me believe at lighter weights the fight would've gone any differently...floyd is vastly better than jmm, at ANY weight, and will be undoubtedly a fighter pacquiao has never come close to encountering before. marquez can't avoid punches in the same manner as mayweather, and that's key....anybody think i'm nitpicking, lemme ask you this...if it weren't for those punches marquez got hit with, an in turn got KD by, who wins both of those fights? floyd's defense is paramount in this fight, and he's a much better version of the same marquez that came w/in a round of beating pacman.

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see my above post. you lead me to believe that you think, IF floyd could've made 140, for instance, marquez would've had a better chance....

floyd is better than marquez. period.

[DC Fight Fan]

I don't post much because there's quite a bit of ****** debates and bickering I'd rather just skip. I read a thread here and there and call it quits, but this is my only real attempt to share my ideas on Mayweather-Pacquiao. I'd love to get some feedback.

Styles do makes fights and just because Marquez gave Manny problems it doesn't mean that Floyd will- but, to me, I actually think it does. I don't see what Marquez had that Floyd lacks - especially in relation to what his style will do to Manny's.

Marquez had two close fights with Manny Pacquiao and I personally gave him the second fight by a round. It was with his ability to counter punch, usetiming, and use his own speed with his boxing ability, that helped Marquez weather any rough Pacquiao storms- like the initial knock downs he suffered. We saw that against a good boxer, Pacquiao can be beaten; and many will agree he lost a close fight that second time.

Floyd is also better than Marquez; especially at 147. Floyd is faster, has better movement, and his boxing technique is one of the best in the game. No he's not as hard of a puncher as Manny, and no, he's not always in the same type of fun fights that Pacquiao is, but he's still in rough, general style terms, going to represent a slightly better version of Marquez.

I don't think Manny has gotten that much better moving up in weight. I don't know that his power will negate Floyd's boxing assets and, to me, I see Floyd winning a UD or, if his offense is on, a possible late TKO- though that's pushing it.

I'm not sure why so many people think Manny could dominate Floyd. Unless some think Floyd is falling off..?

I agree with a lot of this but you lost me at the bolded part. Manny has noticeably got better at just about every step along the way in his career. He is a much better technical fighter now than he was in the Marquez fights. I also believe the weight has helped his chin.

I still think Pac will have problems in this fight if the referee allows Floyd to tie up on the inside. Pac needs to be allowed to work heavily in the clenches to have a chance in this fight. This is a huge uphill battle for Manny and Floyd is surely the favorite.

I think this fight is greatly influenced by who the referee is.

[Gutz]

I don't post much because there's quite a bit of ****** debates and bickering I'd rather just skip. I read a thread here and there and call it quits, but this is my only real attempt to share my ideas on Mayweather-Pacquiao. I'd love to get some feedback.

Styles do makes fights and just because Marquez gave Manny problems it doesn't mean that Floyd will- but, to me, I actually think it does. I don't see what Marquez had that Floyd lacks - especially in relation to what his style will do to Manny's.

Marquez had two close fights with Manny Pacquiao and I personally gave him the second fight by a round. It was with his ability to counter punch, usetiming, and use his own speed with his boxing ability, that helped Marquez weather any rough Pacquiao storms- like the initial knock downs he suffered. We saw that against a good boxer, Pacquiao can be beaten; and many will agree he lost a close fight that second time.

Floyd is also better than Marquez; especially at 147. Floyd is faster, has better movement, and his boxing technique is one of the best in the game. No he's not as hard of a puncher as Manny, and no, he's not always in the same type of fun fights that Pacquiao is, but he's still in rough, general style terms, going to represent a slightly better version of Marquez.

I don't think Manny has gotten that much better moving up in weight. I don't know that his power will negate Floyd's boxing assets and, to me, I see Floyd winning a UD or, if his offense is on, a possible late TKO- though that's pushing it.

I'm not sure why so many people think Manny could dominate Floyd. Unless some think Floyd is falling off..?

Great post.. Wish there was more posters like you.. I agree that this fight is going to be very tough for Pac..


I will still be rooting for Pac though..

[menoari]

Good thread.

I root for Pac and I think this fight will be hard for him too. Why does Pac have a chance? I see a better right hand and a better chin on Pac than he had against JMM. Floyd is a faster and probably more accurate counterpuncher than JMM. With the JMM fight, I saw JMM sitting on Pac's left hand then countering with flurries. I don't think Floyd can ignore the right in March and that will make it tougher to counter Pac. Additionally, Floyd usually counters with 1 or 2 punches lately, that may not stop Pac from continuing to attack especially since he showed a better chin against Cotto, who probably has more power than Floyd.

Neither fighter has fought anyone very similar to the other and since Floyd, as a counterpuncher, would probably need some time to get an actual "feel" for the speed and angles of Pac's attack, this gives Pac an advantage at the start of the fight. We have already seen what Pac can do in a short period of time at the start of a fight, not to say that is what will necessarily happen here.

I'm also kinda leaning to the stat of "most connected unseen punches" as the difference in this fight. Both fighters have the ability to deliver these.

[ALG United]

My whole thing is styles make fights, and if that's true, we really don't know what to expect because floyd has NEVER fought anyone that fights like Pacquiao, and Pacquiao has never fought anyone that fights like floyd. That's why all this talk like, "Pacquiao went life and death with Marquez and Floyd whooped marquez" and "Mayweather took 10 rounds to beat hatton & Pac beat hatton in 2 rounds" as meaningless.

Look, Roberto Duran went 15 full rounds against Marvin Hagler and yet Tommy Hearns destroyed Duran in 2 rounds. What did that mean? Absolutely nothing as Hagler destroyed Hearns in 3.

So all those past fights mean NOTHING because stylewise, they're nothing alike.

Very very good post my man..