David Diaz better chin, tougher than Hatton and Cotto?

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  • street bully
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    #21
    Originally posted by NYU Alum
    I think that 135 was comfortable for Pacquiao. He has added muscle and strength since then, and Roach said that they won't/can't go back to 135.

    Manny has gotten bigger/stronger since he connected with Ariza.
    He looks the same, just a tad bigger. His in fight weight has not increase. He just doesn't cut weight.

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    • BOLLOCKS
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      #22
      No, Diaz was never really trying too hard to win, just to make it threw the fight.

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      • LEFTYGUNZZ
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        #23
        Pacquiao was moving up in weight and was trying new things. The Diaz fight was the first fight I had saw less off balance after hrowing punches. I didn't see him leave himself open for counters as much. I saw him hook off the jab an duse his right hand a lot more then in previous fights. 135 against Diaz was Pacquiao's coming out party....To me seeing him at that weight he looked great he put on a boxing demonstration for the first time I saw him do it...Regardless o fhi sopponent he gave us a real show....Diaz has a great chin but he also has a ton of determination....Lefty

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          #24
          Originally posted by NYU Alum
          I think that 135 was comfortable for Pacquiao. He has added muscle and strength since then, and Roach said that they won't/can't go back to 135.

          Manny has gotten bigger/stronger since he connected with Ariza.
          i think pac was comfortable at 135. i think he can still make 135 if needed.

          Originally posted by NYU Alum
          But Pac has been accustomed to cutting 15, 16 pounds.
          i don't know about accustomed to 15-16 lbs.

          he was accustomed to about 10-12 lbs. or so though.

          it still takes a little bit from you cutting 10-12 lbs. though not much but a little.

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            #25
            Originally posted by street bully
            He looks the same, just a tad bigger. His in fight weight has not increase. He just doesn't cut weight.
            he was 147 fight night against diaz.

            he really is the same size just a bit more developed and bigger in some areas.

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              #26
              if you guys watch the fight again. PAC fought diaz differently compare to his other opponents. Notice Pac ddidnt lunge forward as much and use his forward momentum for extra power. But instead Pac just box Diaz ear off. Diaz is so stationary, a Pac boxer is more than enough for Diaz. With that said thats how Diaz survive till the late rounds.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                i think pac was comfortable at 135. i think he can still make 135 if needed.



                i don't know about accustomed to 15-16 lbs.

                he was accustomed to about 10-12 lbs. or so though.

                it still takes a little bit from you cutting 10-12 lbs. though not much but a little.
                Arithmetic:

                Morales: 144-129 = 15 pounds

                Marquez: 145-129 = 16 pounds

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                Last edited by NYU Alum; 12-10-2009, 12:39 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by NYU Alum
                  Arithmetic:

                  Morales: 144-129 = 15 pounds

                  Marquez: 145-129 = 16 pounds

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                  "Manny was having a lot of trouble making 130 lately," Roach said. "He was starving himself to do it and that made him a little weak. Then he'd overeat after the weigh-in to compensate. He gained 15, 16 pounds after the weigh-in before the last (Juan Manuel) Marquez fight. That kind of extra weight makes you sluggish.


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                    #29
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      Oh shut up Tua. 135 was no problem at all for Pacquiao he made 138 after having breakfast and lunch. 130 was bothering him but when he moved up we couldn't stop hearing about how comfortable he was.
                      Tua is right. Pacquiao had to cut a hell of a lot of weight to make 135 as well.

                      He was 147 on fight night.

                      Pacquiao at 130, would come to fight at 146

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