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  • Chunk..
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    #61
    Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
    Froch is 32 for a start. You are certain Khan will have a better legacy than Froch? I was certain Audely was going to have a better legacy than Ali...

    Better than most 22 year old fighters? Yes, he has - well done to him. However, let's not get carried away, is he really the next Sanchez (no I don't want Khan to die)? I don't think so.

    Froch isn't getting the same numbers as he is not promoted by Warren! He's a loud mouth - he is exciting, he in undefeated. Everything the consumer wants - if Warren signed Froch you can bet your arse there would be some amazing adverts/media hype/good box office numbers and a WHOLE LOT OF BUMS.
    I said Froch was on 30 odd street so i wasn't far off. Even so, how much time left does he have?

    Khan's age means he has more time to put a legacy together. And the whole tying it in with your Audley -Ali point is a fucking joke hopefully. I laughed anyways

    Froch says Mick Hennessy is the 'best promoter in the world.' His words, not mine. Maybe he thought about why he isn't getting the TV time and coin like his fellow Brit Champions then maybe he would sack his piss poor promoter. It also doesn't help that Froch has the personality of a wet towel and talks like he has a chip on his shoulder.

    Also Froch couldn't sell out an 8,000 seated arena in his hometown against Pascal and Dirrell.

    He sells alright. He should see how Haye uses the loudmouth technique.

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    • PensionKiller
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      #62
      Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
      Comparing Froch to Ali.....? Umm... never happened.

      I'm not taking your bet - it's a toss up fight.
      Ok np. But if you want to them pm me

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        #63
        Originally posted by Chunk
        I said Froch was on 30 odd street so i wasn't far off. Even so, how much time left does he have?

        Khan's age means he has more time to put a legacy together. And the whole tying it in with your Audley -Ali point is a fucking joke hopefully. I laughed anyways

        Froch says Mick Hennessy is the 'best promoter in the world.' His words, not mine. Maybe he thought about why he isn't getting the TV time and coin like his fellow Brit Champions then maybe he would sack his piss poor promoter. It also doesn't help that Froch has the personality of a wet towel and talks like he has a chip on his shoulder.

        Also Froch couldn't sell out an 8,000 seated arena in his hometown against Pascal and Dirrell.

        He sells alright. He should see how Haye uses the loudmouth technique.
        lmao exactly , hennessy is small time hall and leisure centre type of promoter , he looked so out of place in the fight camp 360 episodes when gary shaw , lou dibella etc were negotiating . Like you said his personality leaves much to be desired , i dont think i've seen such lack of charisma

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          #64
          Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
          Froch is 32 for a start. You are certain Khan will have a better legacy than Froch? I was certain Audely was going to have a better legacy than Ali...
          Better than most 22 year old fighters? Yes, he has - well done to him. However, let's not get carried away, is he really the next Sanchez (no I don't want Khan to die)? I don't think so.

          Froch isn't getting the same numbers as he is not promoted by Warren! He's a loud mouth - he is exciting, he in undefeated. Everything the consumer wants - if Warren signed Froch you can bet your arse there would be some amazing adverts/media hype/good box office numbers and a WHOLE LOT OF BUMS.

          this is a yes or no question
          are you serious in that part in the bold?
          please tell me your not

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            #65
            Originally posted by british_fan
            this is a yes or no question
            are you serious in that part in the bold?
            please tell me your not
            he wont be able to come up with and arguement for that , like froch he's show himself to be quite one dimensional .

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              #66
              Originally posted by shobox
              he wont be able to come up with and arguement for that , like froch he's show himself to be quite one dimensional .
              i wont let him forget that

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              • Dave Rado
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                #67
                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                Froch has comparable amateur achievements to Khan
                Not even remotely comparable. And considering he didn't turn pro until he was 25, and started boxing when he was 9, he had plenty of time to make a huge mark in the amateurs. Khan won an Olympic silver medal when he was only 17.

                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                but are you seriously saying this is the main reason for all the excitement around him?
                I said that having more than 15 million viewers for that fight, and > 5 million viewers per fight for his first few professional fights, together with his obvious talent, is the reason.

                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                Was it? Sure, he has got very fast hands but where was the inside work, where was the defence, where was the resilience?
                He's got a lot more than just fast hands. He has fast feet, good lateral movement, superb timing, great accuracy (except when he gets over-excited and gets wild, which he hasn't done for quite a few fights), good footwork, and recently, good upper body and head movement. His defence is improving rapidly as well.

                He's working on his inside work but in any case, some ATGs and many Hall of Famers had poor inside work. Ali never fought on the inside. Nor did Lennox Lewis. Nor did Hearns.

                Hearns is also an example of an ATG who didn't have any resilience. Terry Norris is in the Hall of Fame but was at least as chinny as Khan is. In his early career, Ali was also regarded as being very chinny; he was dropped by Banks, who was a journeyman; and if he hadn't been saved by the bell, he'd have been knocked out by Cooper, who was never a top 10 fighter in world terms, and who had a very low KO ratio.

                Roach took him on because he felt that Khan has the talent to go all the way. If you really think that someone as successful as Roach would take someone on simply for the money, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                People keep refering to 'mistakes' in the Prescott fight... I saw no mistakes
                You need a new pair of glasses then.

                Hands down, chin up, eyes half closed, throwing wildly, against someone whom he knew was a big puncher. Most ****** tactics I've ever seen. As for that jab, people like you get that completely out of proportion. Prescott has a hard jab, and if you don't see it coming, and if you are moving straight onto it, doubling its effective impact, then a jab can hurt. Nigel Benn was knocked out cold by a jab, and Clottey, who has an iron chin, was knocked down by one. Lots of people have been hurt by jabs. Prescott is very limited but he is a big puncher with a very solid jab.

                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                He's certaintly earnt the right
                It's a free country, but to say he's earned the right to make a prick of himself is ridiculous.

                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                especially with Khan's DISGRACEFUL pulling of the race card recently.
                There are thousands of extremely racist anti-Khan comments all over the internet, and he has had to put up with racist booing at some of his fights. Khan was ****** to rise to it, and even ******er to say "I'd be a superstar if I were white", when he hasn't remotely achieved enough to be regarded a superstar yet - but that's naive, and ******, not disgraceful. There's nothing surprising or wrong about him objecting to the racism he's had to put up with. What is disgraceful is that he's had to put up with a lot of racism.

                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                The very fact you have admitted Khan was KTFO within 1 minute by a poor fighter is fine by me...
                A limited fighter who has a big punch. And Khan has improved dramatically since then. Froch will never improve.

                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                Who cares if he is 31 years old? He's only had a few fights (a comparable number to Khan)!
                So it's a virtue that he's been extremely inactive, and that he spent six years fighting nobodies?

                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                Froch has been calling names but he didn't have the monetary clout behind him to land them!
                Rubbish. When you haven't fought anyone in the top 50 you don't call out the champion. You try to make fights with the Andrades or Bikas or Pascals of the world, beat someone like that and then call out the champion. Even Manfredo would have been a big step up on the guys Froch was fighting back then. He never called out anyone like them, and calling out Calzaghe back then, when he'd only fought complete journeymen or completely shot fighters up to that point, just made him look an idiot.
                Last edited by Dave Rado; 12-09-2009, 10:25 PM.

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by PensionKiller
                  Name me any fighter at 23 now who has achieved more or fought better. I can't think of any.
                  Now you're also being ridiculous. Tyson, Hamed, Mayweather, loads of others. But it's true that he's achieved far more than the vast majority of fighters do by the time they're 23 - and more than Pacquiao had at that age.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ben_London
                    Froch is being a twat about Khan, the only thing I feel for Froch is that the television here in the UK have treated him badly.
                    Agree completely. It's a disgrace that neither ITV nor Sky are interested in him, especially Sky, who claim to be the channel for boxing fans.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      Now you're also being ridiculous. Tyson, Hamed, Mayweather, loads of others. But it's true that he's achieved far more than the vast majority of fighters do by the time they're 23 - and more than Pacquiao had at that age.
                      Floyd Patterson, De La Hoya, Wilfred Benitez, Roberto Duran, among others.

                      Pretty impressive what Khan's done so far, and Froch didn't even turn pro till he was like 25-26, but I'm not sure if Amir has quite lived up to the original hype yet.

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