Who is the best Trainer in boxing today?

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  • NYU Alum.
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    #11
    Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin
    nacho is great, maybe i am unfair to him but i really don't like his advice. I understand what he tells his fighters in spanish and also how well does he do his homework? For example, he should have known before RD1 against pac how devastating his left hand is? Yet JMM got KD 3 times. In the second fight RD8 was the turning point on the pac fight. Although it can be argued that either pac or JMM won the second fight, did you see the lack of killer instinct on JMM? In RD8 he could have scored a 10-8 RD by attacking Pac with more aggression as his eye when it was badly cut; he didnt. Pac's corner did a great job in healing the eye and JMM never capitalized on it. JMM had KD and in a close fight his coach must instill that killer instinct.
    Dude, you can't blame Nacho because his boy got tagged with PAC's left. When you've got a great puncher like PAC, you're bound to get tagged with it, no matter how many weeks you prepared to not get hit with it.

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    • jrosales13
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      #12
      Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin
      nacho is great, maybe i am unfair to him but i really don't like his advice. I understand what he tells his fighters in spanish and also how well does he do his homework? For example, he should have known before RD1 against pac how devastating his left hand is? Yet JMM got KD 3 times. In the second fight RD8 was the turning point on the pac fight. Although it can be argued that either pac or JMM won the second fight, did you see the lack of killer instinct on JMM? In RD8 he could have scored a 10-8 RD by attacking Pac with more aggression as his eye when it was badly cut; he didnt. Pac's corner did a great job in healing the eye and JMM never capitalized on it. JMM had KD and in a close fight his coach must instill that killer instinct.
      I don't know bro. Nacho has trained HOF'ers from the ground up. Buddy hasn't that. Enzo had just Joe who was a HOF. Nacho is a very good trainer.

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      • Khalid X
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        #13
        I know Nacho is a legend, but his last couple of fights really had me dissapointed in him as a trainer. During the Pac vs DLH fight and JMM vs FM fight the advice he was giving between rounds was so generic it was comical. Again he is a legend, I'm just dissapointed in his last few outings.

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        • jrosales13
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          #14
          Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
          I know Nacho is a legend, but his last couple of fights really had me dissapointed in him as a trainer. During the Pac vs DLH fight and JMM vs FM fight the advice he was giving between rounds was so generic it was comical. Again he is a legend, I'm just dissapointed in his last few outings.
          Yea but those was 2 mismatches.

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          • -Boxzilla-
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            #15
            dont forget he trained hof'er zaragoza as well ... i speak spanish too btw and he also is one of the great trainers out there no doubt ... hes last outings may not have been the strongest but dlh and jmm had no real chance in there

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            • HaglerSteelChin
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              #16
              Nazeem was able to make TIto re-wrap his gloves which helped BHOP destroy Trinidad when he was undefeated. Tito might have started as welter but he destroyed William Joppy a MW in 5 Rds. BHOP's victory over Pavlik was important since Pavlik was undefeated.


              Enzo to some dosent belong there. But its easy to say guys like Kessler, and Lacy are overrated but JC still was able to give them their first lost as he did with Delanney and Veit. He berated his son in the BHOP fight when its was close since its hard to get decisions outside of their country, which is what Nacho should have done in the Chris john fight, go for the KO not a decision.

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              • jrosales13
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                #17
                Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin
                Nazeem was able to make TIto re-wrap his gloves which helped BHOP destroy Trinidad when he was undefeated. Tito might have started as welter but he destroyed William Joppy a MW in 5 Rds. BHOP's victory over Pavlik was important since Pavlik was undefeated.


                Enzo to some dosent belong there. But its easy to say guys like Kessler, and Lacy are overrated but JC still was able to give them their first lost as he did with Delanney and Veit. He berated his son in the BHOP fight when its was close since its hard to get decisions outside of their country, which is what Nacho should have done in the Chris john fight, go for the KO not a decision.
                Is not that he doesn't belong there. Is that you have him there and not Nacho. If you would of added Nacho to the list. Then nobody would of compalined about Enzo.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin
                  Nazeem was able to make TIto re-wrap his gloves which helped BHOP destroy Trinidad when he was undefeated. Tito might have started as welter but he destroyed William Joppy a MW in 5 Rds. BHOP's victory over Pavlik was important since Pavlik was undefeated.


                  Enzo to some dosent belong there. But its easy to say guys like Kessler, and Lacy are overrated but JC still was able to give them their first lost as he did with Delanney and Veit. He berated his son in the BHOP fight when its was close since its hard to get decisions outside of their country, which is what Nacho should have done in the Chris john fight, go for the KO not a decision.
                  enzo only stand out pupil is his son ... who doesnt win with technical boxing or even stratagie it seems. he wins with his unorthodox style workrate and conditioning ... nacho is a 1000x better trainer then enzo without a doubt and has proved it thru like 50 yrs of experience

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                  • baracuda
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                    #19
                    roach......hands down.......

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                    • cooper5
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                      #20
                      Roach by a long shot.

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