Just cuz JMM found success vs Manny don't mean Floyd will...

[larry x]

we will see on march 13th

[patpatpts]

I'm tired of seeing posts suggesting that Floyd will beat Manny based on how Floyd beat JMM and the success JMM had against Manny.

First of all, Marquez was slow, overweight and bloated vs Floyd and Floyd didn't even TRY to make the contracted weight. So that fight should be thrown out the window.

Second, Marquez is a great counter puncher and does his best work during the exchanges. That's when he did his best work against Manny; he's not afraid to trade. Floyd does not like to trade at all these days.

Floyd will not find the same success Marquez had against Manny. Why? Because Floyd is afraid to trade. And he will not trade with Manny. If he does he gets laid out. Floyd didn't even want to trade with pot belly Marquez for fear of getting caught.

I see Floyd doing what he's been doing lately. Jab, potshot, hold, jump in with a left hook, hold, lead with a right, hold, etc., etc., etc.

And this limited output won't work against Manny's overwhelming output and pace. I see Manny beating Floyd to the punch on many occasions, especially early in the fight. Then I think Manny's angles and pace will give Floyd major problems late in the fight.

people are trying to point to the fight were they think they had the most problem in. some people think marquez fight was his toughest fight (true) so of course they are going to cling to it. some people point to the zab fight for answer to beat floyd (somewhat true). pac fans can't point to zab fight if floyd fans can't point marquez fight

[peerless]

manny struggles with real boxers with reflexes.

That's exactly it, these Manny fans do not understand this. I can't remember the last time Manny fought a slick boxer with movement. Floyd doesn't stand in front of you and do nothing, he's either making you miss with movement or, he's hitting you with sharp punches. Gatti, Corrales, Hernandez are perfect examples of what happens when Floyd sits down on his punches and is giving you movement at the same time.

[S A M U R A I]

pac fans can't point to zab fight if floyd fans can't point marquez fight

I don't think they do. Or maybe some do, but most realize Zab doesn't compare to Manny in any other way except for being a fast southpaw. That's where the similarities end.



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[peerless]

people are trying to point to the fight were they think they had the most problem in. some people think marquez fight was his toughest fight (true) so of course they are going to cling to it. some people point to the zab fight for answer to beat floyd (somewhat true). pac fans can't point to zab fight if floyd fans can't point marquez fight

People can point to JMM rightfully so, in many folks eyes JMM was robbed twice. After the first few rounds, Floyd completely dominated Judah.

[S A M U R A I]

perfect examples of what happens when Floyd sits down on his punches and is giving you movement at the same time.

Pacquiao is a master of exactly that. People think he's off-balance though. They are wrong. The power he generates while on the move is not normal.



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[peerless]

Pacquiao is a master of exactly that. People think he's off-balance though. They are wrong. The power he generates while on the move is not normal.

Any boxer can look good moving and at the same time hitting a punching bag. Hatton and Cotto stood right in front of Manny, it looked good to you, other folks weren't so impressed. In fact, the left hook on Hatton look as though Hatton was bracing for the hit, he didn't bother moving at all. Morales in the first fight and JMM in both fights gave Manny movement. The knock downs against JMM were the result of JMM getting careless.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

I'm tired of seeing posts suggesting that Floyd will beat Manny based on how Floyd beat JMM and the success JMM had against Manny.

First of all, Marquez was slow, overweight and bloated vs Floyd and Floyd didn't even TRY to make the contracted weight. So that fight should be thrown out the window.

Second, Marquez is a great counter puncher and does his best work during the exchanges. That's when he did his best work against Manny; he's not afraid to trade. Floyd does not like to trade at all these days.

Floyd will not find the same success Marquez had against Manny. Why? Because Floyd is afraid to trade. And he will not trade with Manny. If he does he gets laid out. Floyd didn't even want to trade with pot belly Marquez for fear of getting caught.

I see Floyd doing what he's been doing lately. Jab, potshot, hold, jump in with a left hook, hold, lead with a right, hold, etc., etc., etc.

And this limited output won't work against Manny's overwhelming output and pace. I see Manny beating Floyd to the punch on many occasions, especially early in the fight. Then I think Manny's angles and pace will give Floyd major problems late in the fight.

This is a great example of how hate can cloud a persons judgment. JMM pot belly, bloated, and slow? lol Ridiculous

[myCoCainE]

Floyd even said recently he was upset vs Marquez he didn't throw many combos and hopes to do so again soon.

Floyd also say before his fights that he will KO his opponents and destroy them. One thing I learned is not to take what Floyd says seriously.

[bdevils]

at 130 Marquez had superb feet, Marquez is better at combinations, and he's a better counter puncher based on his combination punching alone. Marquez at 130 was just that damn good. I'd give Floyd everything else though, even power, at FW. Although Marquez had some pop.

Have you seen Floyd pre-ww? His combo's was sumthing to admire. I will say that Marquez throws more now but better, no.