Will Manny ever get CREDIT for his wins?

[Bahamut Zero]

If he beats someone at the official weight he will get credit

Yeah, like all 50 Pac fights were at catchweights......hater.

[Levcon8686]

He does from real boxing fans.
Nobody else matters.
Pac is the man.

This. Recognise that he gets credit from millions, but that there are plenty of idiots out there. There's always a small minority that are either (1) Complete idiots (2) Just trolling for the sake of it. Ignore said people. Manny is a fantastic fighter and so is Floyd. Neither will get the credit they deserve until they're retired.

[Doctor_Tenma]

It doesn't help when your trainer himself downgrades the fighters you have beat.

and on top of that looks for catweights.

[krispy kreme]

I mean look at his last several fights.
People claim:

Cotto is shot since the Margarito ass beating.
Hatton was overrated
Oscar was drained and years past his prime
David Diaz was a bum
Juan Manual Marquez was robbed of a win

Now people (including pro boxers that know a bit of what goes behind the scenes) are saying Manny is a juicer.

Will PacMan ever get the respect he deserves? Will he get it if he beats Floyd Mayweather?

If course he gets respect. However, big name fighters will always have people who try to discredit their wins.

I see the same arguments for Mayweather, Calzaghe, Cotto, etc...

[HaglerSteelChin]

I believe pac will get alot of credit and to be even honest even if its later reavealed he took PED's. You know why? Because if he is doing it i doubt he is the only one. People were ****** to believe that it was only Canseco in baseball than all of a sudden Mcgwire, Ramirez, palmeiro, Giambi, ortiz, Bonds, Arod, and Clemens were exposed. I see PED's as par for the course. BHOP will continue to box until he is 50 with whatever he is taking and don't think Mosley has STOPPED his PED's looking at his resuerrection after his losses to WRight and Forrest.

One of the ways i measure greatness is how many fighters you beat who have gone or will go to the BHOF or how well you fought them? Pac has beaten atleast several HOF fighters, Barreras,Morales,JMM, DLH, and boderline HOF fighters as Cotto, Larios and Sasakul. He has a title in 7 divisions(5 being WBC, WBO,IBF,WBA). Some will say he beat shot fighters, some were slightly past their prime but way over the hill. Its not like Camacho beating Duran and Leonard when they were atleast 10 years past their prime.

[MrHotsauce84]

new on this site, just wondering how about and what's all this betting and how do I get to part with it.

[thepacman]

This. Recognise that he gets credit from millions, but that there are plenty of idiots out there. There's always a small minority that are either (1) Complete idiots (2) Just trolling for the sake of it. Ignore said people. Manny is a fantastic fighter and so is Floyd. Neither will get the credit they deserve until they're retired.

Yep, years from now when all the hype is said and done and when they both go their separate ways and fight their own separate battles things will be able to be judged in a better perspective.

[ummmid]

and on top of that looks for catweights.

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[MexicanMauler]

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lol

[El Castigador]

He can start on the 13th.........

Beat Mayweather at 147 Pounds.